new engine

thinking about getting a rebuilt crate 318 engine from auto zone, does anyone have a better idea, i just want a stock engine that i can take the van cross country with no worries, auto zone wants 1500 or should i go with a 360 engine?

Do some research on autozone engine buyers. Did the engine work well and last? Did they back the warranty without drama? Are there requirements for the warranty (pro shop install, oil changes) that would cause you to void the warranty?

A 360 will require changes due to the left side engine bracket and the external balance (damper and flywheel or flexplate-converter). You also have to plug the air injection holes in the heads.

thanks rod, i'll stay with a 318 then, i'll do some research and see what other buyers have to say,

Can someone define "Crate" vs "Remanufactured" vs "Rebuilt"?

I was under the assumption that Crate was higher HP and/or Torque, balanced, very carefully constructed, etc.. Some maybe even Dyno tested.

there all the same, meaning a new or rebuilt engine, when you purchase one they come in a crate, thats all that means,

[ Crate = usually refers to an engine from a new manafacturer. of any size & power. many diff ones . Remanufactured is from a engine rebuilder- can be done with many different "Grades" of parts- usually all new - just diff grades of parts - reconditioned conn-rods =& crank usually - even camshafts - so if looking that ways always ask the builder. Rebuilt is usually done by someone that could have even used used parts-just like adding new rings , bearings & such. Can be done as cheaply as possible also or as expensive as wanted also? Any motors can be of much different power & torque specs. Crate motors usually carry a "new Warranty" yet depends on manafacturer.
Best to always ask many questions of each your considering so as to know all about each. If cost isnt a great factor - go with the crate engine-yet reman -you can usually spec the engine yourself if you are competant enough to do that too? Happy vannin

I'd stay with the 318. I'm certainly no expert, or even an enthusiast, and I'm sure someone here could offer more accurate info but IIRC, the heads for the 318s of the 1960s are a slightly different configuration than later models and the intake and exhaust manifolds are set at different angles, so a later model 318 (let alone 360) will not fit into the doghouse of an a-van without serious wall/floor alterations to accomodate the exhaust manifolds.

I rebuilt mine about 15 years ago and haven't paid any attention since, but it seems that's what I discovered back then. I could be wrong, but I'd maybe do some research first before buying anything.

thanks rebar, i'll be staying with a 318, advance auto and autozone have them for the same price from different rebuilders i just have to deside who is better, i first thought of just doing a valve job but the rear main seal leaks bad, i changed the oil pan gasket it helped but i guess after 150 thousand miles its time to put in a fresh motor, has anyone delt with there engines?

Rebuilt=original term to describe an old engine rebuilt with components to provide close to original performance and life. Built to stock or a standardized stock specification.

Remanufactured = A newer tern used to infer that the engine machining and assembly process was held to tighter, more 'factory' style QA process. These often but not always have every crank turned, all valve guides replaced, and other steps to standardize all the finished engines. This may include some upgrades for longevity, but are again stock or very close to stock.

Crate = another newer term describing an engine that is all new components that are either all stock or a performance upgrade that is tested and proven. This has also blurred due to many shops rebuilding or remanufacturing old engines and adding upgraded components (higher compression, bigger cams, ported or aftermarket heads, even some stroker combos).

Ok. When I hear crate, I think of one of these:

http://www.moparsupercenter.com/mopar-performance-340-six-pack-crate-engine-p5153526p5153526.html

Yep, that's a HP crate. The term was also applied to the old 350 Chevy Targetmasters made in Mexico and the new Goodwrench replacement longblocks. A very basic, stock new engine.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/57-Ltr-350-CID-GM-ENGINE-1971-1985-New-10067353-P9447C718.aspx

i just wanted some advice on were to get a motor, lol
i mean engine, we all know a moter runs off of electric, now i'll get it started hehehe O and i have gottin a rebuilt engine from a part store that came in a wooden crate,

A lot of people around here use Jasper engines and theyve been around forever it seems, maybe give them a call.

jasperengines.com

thanks flapper, i'll check them out, john

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/1968-Dodge-A100-1-2-ton-P-U-2WD/Engine/_/N-jdybbZ9enw6?filterByKeyWord=engine&fromString=search
this is the one i'm thinking about getting, anyone have a better price ? i dont know how to get in contact with people that purchased one to see if there any good,

Did a google search for "autozone rebuilt engines reviews"


http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/autozone-remanufactured-engines-how-good-99204/

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Auto-Zone/Rolla-Missouri-65401/Auto-Zone-Does-Not-Want-To-Honor-Engine-Warrantee-Rolla-Missouri-313587

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/tech-general-engine/496223-bought-az-engine-now.html

http://www.bbcboards.net/bbc-lounge/43838-autozone-remanufactured-engines.html

http://forums.off-road.com/jeep-short-wheelbase/4701-autozone-rebuilt-engines-any-experience.html

That is most of the links on the FIRST page of results.

If you search for "dodge 318 remanufactured engines"
There are a lot of results too.
I would suggest that shopping is vitally important, and that the factors in order are

1. Quality - hopefully it is a great engine and you do not have to remove it and deal with a warranty. If it's junk sold by great people in town at a great price doesn't make up for your efforts.
2. Price - Most will shop for price No.1. However, a 200 rebuilt that has to be pulled back out and then the Co. will not warranty is more than useless, it's COST you time and money. Also, a $5K 318 is pointless.
3. Quality of the Co. and people selling /warranteeing the engine. If the engine is great, this is minor. If there is a problem, it's VERY important.
4. Location - There used to be a good machine shop in any decent sized town. This is not as common any more, due to the hard work (fewer machinists) the big Co,s undercutting prices, consumers unwilling to invest in rebuilding, instead buying new, and longer lasting engines.
So you don't always have the choice of getting the engine locally. However, you still want to inspect the location, pick up the engine and return if there are any problems. If everything is done by shipping, it's going to cost more money each time.

So for each Co. you consider, make sure to check for complaints, how well they handled problems and what is included, so you compare similar products.

Here is a checklist for what's involved
http://www.enginerebuilder.org/faqs.shtml


Here is a checklist for when you have installed the new engine
http://www.chicagoengines.com/tech/bulletins/Checklist-First-Startup-Freshly-Rebuilt-Engine.htm

There are a lot more of each. Make sure you understand what you are buying (the first list) and that you follow all the steps to ensure the engine will live when installed and the warranty is not voided (second list).
I would expect that a reputable Co. will have a second list that MUST be followed to ensure the engine is covered. Follow the provided list, and if you find other lists that are MORE detailed, do that stuff too.

YOUR THE MAN ROD ,,I NEVER THOUGHT OF GOOGLEING THERE ENGINES, SOUNDS LIKE THERE JUNK,, I CHECKED WITH A BUDDY OF MINE THAT OWNES A CARQUEST PART STORE HERE IN TOWN, I FORGET THE BRAND BUT HE SAID IN ALL THE YEARS HE HAS SOLD THERE ENGINES, NEVER A PROBLEM, SO I THINK I'LL GO WITH ONE FROM HIM, NOT TO MENTION HE WILL DELIVER IT TO MY DOOR AND NOT CHARGE ME ANY CORE CHARGE AS LONG AS I CAN HAVE MY OLD ENGINE READY FOR HIM TO PICK UP IN 4 DAYS AFTER THAT, THE DOWN SIDE ITS 17 HUNDRED BUT I GUESS YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, AND IF I HAVE A PROBLEM I'M SURE HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT WITH NO HASTLE,, I THANK YOU FOR RESERCHING IT FOR ME, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU AND OUTHERS ON HERE HAVE SAVED MY ASS,

THANKS AGAIN ROD, YEAH MOST GUYS NEVER BOTHER LOOKING AT ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT COME WITH A REBUILT ENGINE AND THATS A BIG MISTAKE, MOST OF ALL NEVER START A NEW ENGINE WITHOUT PRIMING THE OIL PUMP UNTILL YOU HAVE GOOD OIL PRESURE AND CAN SEE OIL COMMING OUT OF THE ROCKERS, WITHOUT DOING THIS YOU CAN DISTROY A ENGINE, I HAVE REPLACE A LOT OF ENGINES OVER ALL MY YEARS AND STILL LIKE TO REED EVERYTHING I CAN FIND ABOUT IT,,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321212794007?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
i think this is a good price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231055295167?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
got this today it should make that new engine go
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edelbrock-Carburetor-1406-600-CFM-Electric-Choke-Very-Clean-30-Day-Warranty-/231055295167?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&nma=true&si=%252FE5fvj0DfFm4bGigBDK3ZoJ354g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Looking really good Dodge Man! You will be really happy with that carb, intake combo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151061633229?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649http://www.ebay.com/itm/310734117831?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
thanks Tom, i got these to help with the instulation

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310734117831?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
should help with the heat

were can i get a by pass hose fitting for the front of a 318 intake. i think its 1'' npt, thanks for any help
john