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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Vin Code please

    Linoman
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    Post by Linoman Mon May 21, 2012 10:28 am

    Hey guys I thought it it was time I had the VIN of my Super8 decoded. Thanks

    Plate:
    E16AH876538
    90 M E162 489 C 11
    0 4930 129 4000 55
    econopoor
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    Post by econopoor Tue May 22, 2012 4:42 am

    Here you go.

    E16 = Econoline van series, extended body
    A = 240 engine
    H = Lorain Ohio assembly plant
    876538 = June 1966 serial number - 1966 model
    90 = wheelbase
    M = Wimbledon White paint
    E162 = Econoline van model, extended body, 1 ton (Heavy Duty)
    4 = beige standard interior
    89 = van body style
    C = 3 speed transmission
    11 = 3.50:1 heavy duty axle (9 inch)
    4930 = 1 ton GVW rating
    129 at 4000 = certified net HP at RPM
    55 = St. Louis sales district


    Duane in Tennessee

    Linoman
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    Post by Linoman Tue May 22, 2012 6:18 am

    Thanks Duane.
    Just out of curiosity how do you distinguish between the 9" & the 8.8" rear ends? I see both in the shop manual.
    econopoor
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    Post by econopoor Tue May 22, 2012 5:46 pm

    I'm not really sure about that one. The term "nine inch" refers to the diameter of the ring gear. 144's used a 7 inch ring gear. 170's used a 7.25 ring gear. The 240's all used 9 inch as you know. Now, I believe slightly different ratios may have changed the actual diameter of the ring gear. When I hear 8.8 I think of the rear used in late model Mustangs and such. A completely differnt animal than our nine inch rears. It's built more like the 7's and 7.25's. I know Ford made some 9.25 inch rears. Still called them 9's. I'm not sure where you are seeing this 8.8 info. I have a 67 manual and it makes no reference to the ring gear size. It only defines them as integral carrier type (7.25) and removable carrier type (9").

    If you can let me know where you found the 8.8 reference I can check it out and see what I can come up with.

    Duane in Tennessee
    Linoman
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    Post by Linoman Tue May 22, 2012 6:20 pm

    Duane ~ I noticed this in my 66 maual in the rear axel specifications( section 4-3 in the 66 manual). It lists 7.25, 8.75 & 9 in Ring Gear Diameters. I guess I miss typed when I wrote 8.8 I was thinking about the 8.75 I had seen in the manual.
    I happened to notice today while under the van the ID tag on the rear axel, WCR-R1 3.50 6FB 782, which I was able to find on a Ford site as being a 3.50 9" NL used in the the econolines from 1963-1967. Interestingly all the ones my manual lsits as 8.75" this site has as 9".

    www.fordification.com/tech/rearends_ford01.htm

    ~Tim
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    Post by econopoor Tue May 22, 2012 7:36 pm

    Hi Tim,
    8.75 is more inline with what I've heard. 8.75,9,9.25 were differences in ring gear diameter depending on ratio. All are considered 9 inchers though.

    Duane in Tennessee.
    Barnabas
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    Post by Barnabas Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:19 pm

    In our Econolines, the 4.57 ratios had a 9" gear, whereas the 3.00, 3.50, and 4.11 had a 8.75" gear. The axle and gear housing is the same, and referred to as a 9" rear.
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    Post by Barnabas Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:23 pm

    FYI. The small rear axle changed with the year:
    ‘61-‘64 used a 7” gear
    ‘65-‘67 used a 7.25” gear

    **This is incorrect. See below.


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    econopoor
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    Post by econopoor Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:31 am

    That's not really true Barnabas. The gear was matched to the engine. 7" was used with the 144 and the 7.25" was used with the 170.

    Duane in Tennessee.
    Barnabas
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    Post by Barnabas Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:58 pm

    Right you are Duane. I was incorrect on the light-duty axles.
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    Post by weirdbeard Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:56 am

    Can some one help me out with my Vin Code on my van.

    14TH470498
    090 M E144 489 A 01
    4350 85 3600  34
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    Post by weirdbeard Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:05 am

    year - Model Name1964    E100
    Warranty NumberE14TH470498
    Series Code (1st - 3rd digits)E14Econoline Van
    Engine (4th digit)T170 cui I6
    Assembly Plant (5th digit)HLorain, Ohio
    Year/month builtNovember 1963
    Wheelbase (front to rear axle distance)09090"
    ColorMWimbledon White 1619
    ModelB144Unknown
    Interior Soft Trim (first digit of Body)4Light beige crush vinyl and light beige stitch pattern vinyl
    Body Style (last digits in Body)89Van
    TransmissionAFord 3-speed manual, model 3.03 HEF
    Gears: 1st=3.41, 2nd=1.86, 3rd=1.00, R=3.51
    Rear Axle01WCC-D or WCC-M, 7.25" gear, 3.50:1 ratio, 2300 lbs. rating
    Spring Special?No
    Gross Vehicle Weight (Lbs)43504,350 pounds gross vehicle weight, 3/4-ton payload
    Engine Horsepower8585 H.P.
    Engine Speed at Rated Horsepower36003,600 R.P.M.
    Regional Sales District34Indianapolis
    Special Ordernot a special order (or missing data)
    This is what I came up with
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    Post by Barnabas Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:42 pm

    I see you noticed that you mistyped the model number. I fixed it for you. You have a 3/4 ton van, which is between the regular van and the 1-ton HeavyDuty. In your case, they probably just put on better tires.

    You also have the unusual TravelWagon pop-top camper in a cargo van. Not the usual Falcon or window van. Cool!

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