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    Post by bkaspr Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

    I've been searching high and low for a solution to my annihilated turn signal and horn swtich/assembly on my 65 automatic a100. I know there are some NOS bits on ebay, and mopar mall has a repro kit, but I'm not willing to shell out $200+ for a turn signal and horn. Call me crazy. Does anyone have any tips/trick resources to fixing this? Do any of the dorman/H.E.L.P. turn signal switch kits fit the a100? Will the spring loaded GM type of horn brush contact work? I have a contact ring, the auto cancel washer thing, and the metal "base" that holds the signal switch and original horn brush roller contact, and that's it.

    Any help or leads would be appreciated.
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    Post by slowflapper Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:36 pm

    I think some of the early Sweptline dodge trucks used the same cams and internals, you may use that to expand the search a bit.
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    Post by bkaspr Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:04 pm

    Actually the other day I saw that Easy Street had an assembly for the trucks. The price isn't great, but it certainly beats other prices I've found out there. Looks identical to me, does anyone know if this fits?

    Link:
    http://easy-streetllc.com/69-71-turn-69-71-turn-signal-assembly-sa6971/
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    Post by Dan Scully Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:34 pm

    bkaspr wrote:Actually the other day I saw that Easy Street had an assembly for the trucks. The price isn't great, but it certainly beats other prices I've found out there. Looks identical to me, does anyone know if this fits?

    Link:
    http://easy-streetllc.com/69-71-turn-69-71-turn-signal-assembly-sa6971/
    Not the same switch but looks like you might be able to modify it to work?,the A-100 is the same as the early D-100 .I think 61-to 69?  I have a used one you can have it might work or good for parts just pay the shipping.It is missing the little wedge that holds the switch to the column and the wires have been cut. Send me a PM.

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    Post by bkaspr Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:19 am

    Thank you! Sending a message now.
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    Post by hemicop Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:30 am

    So does that mean one from a d100 WILL fit? And how do you remove the arm from the switch, anyway? Mine's riveted on & I tried drilling it out but it's still in there---I can't remove the switch unless I can get the arm off. HELP!
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    Post by bkaspr Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:40 am

    Hey hemicop. The turn signal switch from a mid 60's bronco will work for this. I drilled out the rivets on the switch holder and replaced the entire plastic piece/switch with the new one from scott drake. Just bolted it into the metal switch holder piece. Cost about $25. Only difference is I had to remove one of the horn contacts, and swap out the threaded turn signal arm holder for the dodge one. Also for anyone looking for the turn signal arm, the bronco turn signal arm fits the a100 perfectly.
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    Post by hemicop Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:20 pm

    Thanks! I was beginning to imagine all sorts of problems! Did you have to drill out the rivet holding the arm also?
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    Post by bkaspr Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:36 pm

    No that piece is not riveted in. It's held simply via a recess in the plastic switch and the metal holder. The clip on the top of the plastic only holds the cancelling cam in place.
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    Post by hemicop Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:38 pm

    So that arm IS removable without drilling???????
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    Post by bkaspr Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:42 pm

    yes. the arm unscrews from the metal piece inside of the column and that threaded piece is just held in place by the plastic switch. At least this is the case on my 1965, which uses the switch set up like you see pictured further up this thread.
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    Post by slowflapper Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:15 pm

    Dan Scully wrote:
    bkaspr wrote:Actually the other day I saw that Easy Street had an assembly for the trucks. The price isn't great, but it certainly beats other prices I've found out there. Looks identical to me, does anyone know if this fits?

    Link:
    http://easy-streetllc.com/69-71-turn-69-71-turn-signal-assembly-sa6971/
    Not the same switch but looks like you might be able to modify it to work?,the A-100 is the same as the early D-100 .I think 61-to 69?  I have a used one you can have it might work or good for parts just pay the shipping.It is missing the little wedge that holds the switch to the column and the wires have been cut. Send me a PM.

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    That part looks identical to my stock '65 signal cam setup

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    Post by hemicop Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:54 pm

    slowflapper wrote:
    Dan Scully wrote:
    bkaspr wrote:Actually the other day I saw that Easy Street had an assembly for the trucks. The price isn't great, but it certainly beats other prices I've found out there. Looks identical to me, does anyone know if this fits?

    Link:
    http://easy-streetllc.com/69-71-turn-69-71-turn-signal-assembly-sa6971/
    Not the same switch but looks like you might be able to modify it to work?,the A-100 is the same as the early D-100 .I think 61-to 69?  I have a used one you can have it might work or good for parts just pay the shipping.It is missing the little wedge that holds the switch to the column and the wires have been cut. Send me a PM.

    Turn signal and horn repair 20170711
    Turn signal and horn repair 20170710

    That part looks identical to my stock '65 signal cam setup

    Turn signal and horn repair ZCOxpAAPc6XHGsEikkAMSCNJOlMEtvwJ9XH1vjYEIcjhdXwH_nkQxM0OTPW97CZCzlin0na2wQvrfroq6TB5nhPeTKtwrvKFZMBs-cSgp0-09XwZ2kx2HIFBFx3-2YOP21d2_CZ_p9H5JAsidwK1Exq4eUDKxzSGYHf2DWRNLrkqVgMaa_7Jsw2o2BDw3W8kKAtmZHhSs-1qZvO2oM5KtsYX_ND5_TuhaKzqpxi11WsTdb-Pk2nGZLjF2p4d6bsTsA6VLkO4L7PFgoye_o1Ea-JaYWYkBf2xtzT6xrL4PxUakZtG31k5bbiwtxY5HtfHZ6nQPVYwe8ZBTyWztHMzXWKWk667LgSUnZr_esPANSVK5aH1-vhuR2j1NMh5hvHscN3IVSnm4ASOtpi3MRl_Naqeju_a64WYQtAusIFS4pF35TjUBSJpR6wcukjcmo2g_3Fa2TUct0uA1f9sOppnqsh6XmaWbpm0PTpfTREdBcxT4XKF7BQqFJDWY_GTddeX4ebKnPoeFYB0utLrp1rEk2m6aRPDcyfs8n8oeguKFTyg2QHRGmIXkQAKroBGHdc6aBs-np5itV9ppjIlsY8Zvimsxta71P23mV3fo8wiZDujdtYKMYDmbn7RcIzrTMTCDOJauvgFxbUzXSMeyB1VexL3EXrr57Rt2Qg=w595-h793-no

    The first picture looks like my switch but the arm is attached via the rivet (?) on the left-hand side so I can't remove the switch from the column. A local parts store provided me a an arm from a '67 Bronco that looks like it MAY work IF I can get the switch out of the column. In short, this is getting a bit more complicated than I anticipated Shocked
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    Post by hemicop Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:53 pm

    Well, I've been all over the Web as far as I can figure out Rolling Eyes ..................ANYONE have a turn signal switch they're willing to part with without charging me my first-born? affraid
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    Post by lws67 Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:43 pm

    The arm threads into the alloy block that the plastic parts are riveted to. The arm "should" have small flats on it so a wrench can be used to remove.
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    Post by hemicop Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:07 am

    lws67 wrote:The arm threads into the alloy block that the plastic parts are riveted to. The arm "should" have small flats on it so a wrench can be used to remove.  


    Thanks! Slowly but surly I'm getting this sorted-out. Now IF I can just find a switch..... Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Keith D Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:00 pm

    hemicop wrote:
    lws67 wrote:The arm threads into the alloy block that the plastic parts are riveted to. The arm "should" have small flats on it so a wrench can be used to remove.  


    Thanks! Slowly but surly I'm getting this sorted-out. Now IF I can just find a switch..... Rolling Eyes

    There are no reproductions available... Originals are very hard to find...That is why they go for big bucks on eBay.
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    Post by sweetvan Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:30 am

    Hemicop,
    What did you wind up doing?
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    Post by bkaspr Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:55 am

    Chiming back in on this thread because I came up with a pretty good solution. I used a turn signal switch from an early bronco. The layout is identical. The only difference is that there are 2 horn contacts, which I simply cut one out. I removed the old plastic switch and rivets from the van, and simply tapped new threaded holes to mount the switch to. Then just swapped out the threaded lever piece. It worked surprisingly well. I now have a working horn and turn signals that cancel properly. I have the metal piece that the plastic switch mounts to inside of the column, you'll need that part to make this work. Also early bronco turn signal levers are threaded exactly the same as the dodge levers and will screw right into the assembly.

    This is what I used, less than $25

    https://www.cjponyparts.com/turn-signal-wiring-reproduction-bronco-1966-1970/p/BRTSW2/

    Hope this helps.
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    Post by gary h Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:53 pm

    Anyone have a P/N for the cam only ? Aftermarket Shee-Mar ? 1968 with two wires (red & white)


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    Post by sweetvan Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:57 am

    Gary,
    The part number for my '65 turn signal and horn switch is 2231146. The red and white wires are for the horn. The other 5 wires are for the turn signal.

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