So, I've been through all the threads regarding steering issues for all three makes of vans to see if I had missed any correct answers (or any worth investigating)....
It was my belief that lowering my straight axle 108 chevy would be no problem as long as I put plenty of positive caster in....Well, there is more to it than that!!
Briefly, caster is the vertical tilt of the steering axis (king pin) front2rear with positive caster being the rearward tilt of the kingpin at it's top...Positive caster assures that the van goes straight when you let go of the wheel and returns naturally to center after a turn....It is measured in degrees of rotation of the axle in relation to the pavement....If you add front rake to your van, that subtracts from positive caster..... IMO, all these vans should have a minimum of 5 degrees positive and it is adjusted by placing wedge shims between the axle and leaf springs........
So I personally made sure I have over 7 degrees of caster after lowering my van with an axle flip....
I went for a quick test drive across my (un) favorite bouncy bridge, and the van went left-right-left, trying to dump me out in the road....
I'd heard of bump steer but had never before personally experienced it, but my van has it bad AND IT'S TERRIFYING!
So I started to research just what the mechanical workings of this issue are and learning these things told me how to verify the scope of the issue...
On all these early vans, we have a "side steer" drag link setup, where the steering box is ahead of the axle with a pitman arm hanging vertically, pushing/pulling a drag-link front2rear that is connected to an arm fastened to the left kingpin/spindle assembly.... In factory configuration, the length and orientation of the drag link in relation to the suspension travel axis is situated so that the drag link does not grow and shrink in length as the suspension works because if you are holding the steering wheel when it starts bouncing the thing will jerk left and right in a bump-steer scenario....The dilemma is that the steering box is attached solid to the frame and the drag-link's other end is fastened to the axle that is moving up and down....
The way to know if you have bump steer is to bounce the vehicle and see if the wheel goes left-right as it bounces...
What I found was that I had changed the drag-link geometry during my axle flip in a way that probably can't be corrected....
The solution that I've come up with is to install a bell-crank and cross-steer tie bar that is level with the ground and 40-some inches long that crosses over and hooks to the passenger side steering arm.....
I just wanted to share these thoughts so that folks might properly identify their issue if/when these issues arise and consider that lowering (or raising) one of these straight axles can bring on unforseen issues....
Not sure how my story will turn out yet, but I will share either way...
It was my belief that lowering my straight axle 108 chevy would be no problem as long as I put plenty of positive caster in....Well, there is more to it than that!!
Briefly, caster is the vertical tilt of the steering axis (king pin) front2rear with positive caster being the rearward tilt of the kingpin at it's top...Positive caster assures that the van goes straight when you let go of the wheel and returns naturally to center after a turn....It is measured in degrees of rotation of the axle in relation to the pavement....If you add front rake to your van, that subtracts from positive caster..... IMO, all these vans should have a minimum of 5 degrees positive and it is adjusted by placing wedge shims between the axle and leaf springs........
So I personally made sure I have over 7 degrees of caster after lowering my van with an axle flip....
I went for a quick test drive across my (un) favorite bouncy bridge, and the van went left-right-left, trying to dump me out in the road....
I'd heard of bump steer but had never before personally experienced it, but my van has it bad AND IT'S TERRIFYING!
So I started to research just what the mechanical workings of this issue are and learning these things told me how to verify the scope of the issue...
On all these early vans, we have a "side steer" drag link setup, where the steering box is ahead of the axle with a pitman arm hanging vertically, pushing/pulling a drag-link front2rear that is connected to an arm fastened to the left kingpin/spindle assembly.... In factory configuration, the length and orientation of the drag link in relation to the suspension travel axis is situated so that the drag link does not grow and shrink in length as the suspension works because if you are holding the steering wheel when it starts bouncing the thing will jerk left and right in a bump-steer scenario....The dilemma is that the steering box is attached solid to the frame and the drag-link's other end is fastened to the axle that is moving up and down....
The way to know if you have bump steer is to bounce the vehicle and see if the wheel goes left-right as it bounces...
What I found was that I had changed the drag-link geometry during my axle flip in a way that probably can't be corrected....
The solution that I've come up with is to install a bell-crank and cross-steer tie bar that is level with the ground and 40-some inches long that crosses over and hooks to the passenger side steering arm.....
I just wanted to share these thoughts so that folks might properly identify their issue if/when these issues arise and consider that lowering (or raising) one of these straight axles can bring on unforseen issues....
Not sure how my story will turn out yet, but I will share either way...