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    76 g10 3 on the tree problem

    Tonyvan
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    Post by Tonyvan Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:57 pm

    Hey, I just got this van. It's a 1976 Chevy G10 3 speed on the tree and it won't shift. This piece is broken off and won't move the gears. Does anyone know where to get this piece or what it's called? I thought about replacing the whole steering column but as a last resort also does anyone know where to get one.I want to keep the 3 speed on the tree and not put the shifter on the floor.
    Thanks guys, Tony
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    Post by Scott Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:24 am

    Sorry Tony, your not going to find many answers here since this site is for vans older then your 1976. Chevy's are only covered for 1st generation (64-66),and 2nd generation (67-70), after 1970 they had a complete redesign.

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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:19 am

    Post a picture or describe, what piece you are talking about,,,,,,is it right below the steering wheel,,,,,,AND,,,,,,,,,then we can talk about it in our section we have here called EARLY ENOUGH which is set aside for OLD VANS,,,,,,,,,but I think we can help you,,,,,,,,,,
    Tonyvan
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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:46 am

    The piece moves the two gears that are connected to the steering column. I guess you could call it a fork? Gear selector fork? It's seems like it would have pushed the gears that are attached to the steering column into 1st 2nd 3rd then rev. I'm trying to post a picture.
    Thanks for the help Donivan65
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:58 am

    Picture posting is a little complicated here,,,,,,,but are we  talking about the levers at the bottom of the column where the shift rods connect or at the trans,,,,,,, this conversation will be moving up to our GENERAL section to the EARLY ENOUGH  area in a little while,,,,,but keep going,,,,,,
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:21 am

    click on the picture to make it bigger,,,,



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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:40 am

    Ok so it's a piece between the 2nd/3rd and 1fst/rev. The piece looks like it pushes it into 2nd/3rd and then pushes it into 1frst/rev. Maybe called gear fork or something. the piece moves when you shift on the column. So right now I can move the shifter and the broken piece is just moving but won't move the gears dude to it being broken.
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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:41 am

    But yes we are in the area of the column where the shifters are
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:25 pm

    ,,,,,,so,,,,,,if you can reach down there and move those levers to put the trans into 1st,2nd, 3rd and reverse AND the shift lever in the van wont do it,,,,,,its sounding like a broken shift tube,,,,,,is that whats happening,,,,,you kinda got a little finger between the levers that sits in the 2nd and 3rd lever and it moves up into the 1st and reverse lever when you pick up on the shift lever to move into gear,,,,,,is that whats happening?
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:40 pm

    ,,,,and maybe we are talking about this crossover bar that the shift lever inside moves so it can move the 2 shift levers and rods,,,,,,,,



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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:55 pm

    Yes! The pic is perfect that's the one!
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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:56 pm

    And to your first paragraph yes that's exactly what's happening we are thing about welding something on but don't know how much and how long it will work for.
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:13 pm

    seems to me,,,,,,,,they put a plastic screw in the shift tube so it would collapse when you ran into something,,,,,,and WHEN,,,,not IF the shift linkage got stuck,,,,pulling too hard on the shift lever broke that screw,,,,,,you could put a sheet metal screw in there so that when you moved the shift lever, it moved the levers down there,,,,,,the shift tube is 2 pipes,,,one inside the other,,,,,,some shift tubes came right out the top after you took the steering wheel and shift collar off,,,others you need to pull the column and slide the shift tube out the bottom,,,,,I am just saying this is how to fix a broken shift tube,,,,,the shift tube is connected to the upper 2nd and 3rd speed lever,,,,,,are you saying when you move the shift lever it dont move down there or is something else broken?
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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:38 pm

    He shifter moves but it doesn't move the speed levers. That part you showed me in the picture is exactly what is broken you can see the tabs broke off. I pulled the whole steer column off so either I need that new part or just a whole new 3 on the tree steering column. So my question is if you know where to find that part or a steering column with the 3 on the tree but it has to be around my year 70-79
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    Post by Vantasia Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:47 pm

    donivan65 wrote:Post a picture or describe,   what  piece you are talking about,,,,,,is it right below the steering wheel,,,,,,AND,,,,,,,,,then we can talk about it in our section we have here called EARLY ENOUGH  which is set aside for OLD VANS,,,,,,,,,but I think we can  help you,,,,,,,,,,
    Yeah really, the mechanicals of the 70's vans isn't that much different than the earlys, especially manual shifters...post some pics. Oh, I scrolled down and saw them.  I had a '74 Ford Bronco 3 on tree and the same thing happened, the shift tube inside the column broke at the bottom after 100K+ miles, wore out but back then you could get it at the dealer. Ford and GM used similar designs.
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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:55 pm

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f11/12/48/24/30/dscn0011.jpg

    Hopefully this works it's the part with the arrow pointing to it.
    If it doesn't work someone posted it above
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    Post by Tonyvan Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:38 pm

    Yup that's exactly where it work too. I'm hopeing to find just that part somewhere. If not maybe just get the whole steeerinf column I found one for 200 at some yard out of state. Maybe last resort just put the shifter on the floor
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:22 pm

    The closest listing I can see is for a 79 Chevy Van shift tube, GM 7836826,,,probably the same as yours,,,,,most likely discontinued,,,,just like this 1984 one,,,,,,,


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    Post by Tonyvan Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:01 am

    Yeah it's seems it's very hard to find some I found 3 whole steering columns at junk yards emailed them. Lowest is 85$ high 200$ but not bad for buying the van for 200$. 🤗
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:47 am

    Do you have it out,,,,,you sure it aint a broken shift collar and lever up at the top? whats broken so bad that a welder cant fix?
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    Post by Tonyvan Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:46 am

    Yes I have it out in my pic that I can't post you can see it broken. Yeah that's true about welding
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:05 am

    ,,,here is something about posting pictures,,,,


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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:08 am

    ,,,click on this version,,,,,76 g10 3 on the tree problem  Postin11
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    Post by Tonyvan Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:24 am

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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:52 am

    well then take the shift tube out and get a tab welded on there,,,,,,is the other side broken also?

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