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    Post by redvango Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:36 pm

    Has anyone found leaf spring bushings in the last year for a first gen g10? Donavans post go'es back 2013 and those companys have faded a way! I'm going to call energy suspension! I thought i'd see if anyone has bought bushing lately?
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    Post by donivan65 Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:01 pm

    I think the 1st Gens use a larger cartridge on the front passenger spring than the other 3 springs,,,,,



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    Post by redvango Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:55 am

    That right doni! the front is a cartridge that's 1-5/8 OD the shackles are 1-1/8 just rubber with a collar for the connecting plate's to pivot on! I called the places on your 2013 post no longer exist! There in a national spring in milwaukee but they would need the dimensions to make rubber one's ! Energy suspension can make Urethane given the dimensions! I was just hope that some one has had them made!?
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    Post by donivan65 Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:12 pm

    The shackles are HB 930......1.10
    The 3 front small bushings are 1.14
    The big RF is 1.64  and say 2061 0n them.
    Unless you find the metal cartridges for the fronts,
    these need a metal sleeve that matches your bolt.


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    Post by donivan65 Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:19 pm

    Heres some another part number for that small cartridge 2056/4.2126R bushing.


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    Post by donivan65 Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:31 pm

    $20 on Ebay,,,,,,,


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    Post by redvango Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:28 pm

    Thanks Doni:) I got both the front leaf's off and by tape their both 1-5/8 left and right!? funny just had rubber bushing's no cartridge in the back of leaf? hopefully tomorrow I can get the back leaf's off? maybe those will have the cartridge in the shackle? Thank you as always (JOHN) aka Redvango
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    Post by donivan65 Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:26 pm

    Shackles dont use cartridges just 4 half rubber bushings,,,,,and after over 50 years, you dont know what has been done to a vehicle,,,,,so you dont know what you got till you tear it apart,,,,,,you might have corvan, pick up or nova parts,,,,,Lets see some pictures of what you got,,,,,If you got those big metal cartridges in the springs, I wouldnt be pressing them out until I found some kind of replacement or you wont be driving that van,,,,there is always a chance that the van was ordered with heavy duty suspension too and tougher springs,,,,,if you just want to take a peak at the front bushing on the rear springs, you can put a jack between the spring and frame and remove the bolt and jack the spring down enough to see the bushing,,,,you could probably change the bushings without removing it from the rear end if  they are bad.  


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    Post by gfleduc Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:32 am

    FYI for the front springs; forward eye, chevy use three different combinations of bushings.  Therefore measure both sides before ordering.

    1st combination - Both sides uses std bushings 1-1/8 OD (p/n 3834082).
    2nd combination - LH side uses std bushing & RH uses HD bushing 1.625 OD.
    3rd combination - Both sides uses HD bushings (p/n 3884082).
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    Post by donivan65 Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:35 pm

    ,,,,,,,,and if you need the stock 1 1/8" bushing,,,,,you are in,,,,,,,,,,,luck,,,,,,,


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    Post by redvango Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:17 pm

    need 1-5/8 or 1.64
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    Post by redvango Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:25 pm

    I found a couple of place's the make urathane parts and waiting to here back! Napa found rare parts had the cartridge's that fit so I order those and if the urethane come through I'll just sell them though the club!!
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    Post by redvango Fri Dec 29, 2023 1:50 pm

    i just order a couple urethan universal bushing that are bigger and longer and a buddy said he would help me turn them down on his lathe !! fingers cross the cost $79 dollars!
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    Post by donivan65 Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:05 pm

    So what part numbers from where,,,,,is the bolt sleeve correct,,,,,,keep putting up information, right or wrong, sooner or later people got to crawl under their van and check their spring bushings.
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    Post by redvango Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:21 pm

    the company is susenion.co part# 9.948 Flange type bushing OD 1.75 in.ID.875 in.Tub lenght 2.56 in. Black or red two pack $29.53 each! I let you if i can make them fit?! th e hot rod mechanic said i could use his milling machine to size them to specs! Wish me luck
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    Post by redvango Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:27 pm

    the gay said the sleeve will fit 5/8 od bolt or 1/2" course bolt
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    Post by redvango Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:14 pm

    just an up date!The shackle energy bushings #4.2126 use a 9/16th bolt not 1/2 inch witch is no big deal drill the shackles a1/16" bigger hole and i found an for the front leaf's in stead of the energy 9.488G witch has a 5/8 bolt prothane #19-610 only needs 1/4" cut off and turn down form 1"-3/4 to the 1.61" and has a sleeve for a 9/16th bolt
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    Post by donivan65 Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:08 pm

    Our vans use a 9/16" carriage  bolt and these HB 930 are a direct fit.


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    Post by Space Truckin Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:28 am

    Lots of good info, just no love for the 2nd gen... Idea
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    Post by redvango Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:09 am

    My shackles only had rubber with 1/2" bolts not cartridges
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    Post by gfleduc Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:23 am

    I would easily speculate a prior owner replaced the grommets and bolts for a working repair solution for them.  As stated prior the bolts are Ø9/16".  (P/N 3848685 per the parts book 3-5/8" long).
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:55 am

    The metal cartridges are only in the forward side of the springs, the rear ends of the springs have the shackles and only have 4 rubber bushings just slide into the frame and spring eye and the 2 carriage bolts hold the shackle together but you dont know what you got until you take it apart.
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:18 pm

    So i guess you dont have the stock shackles with the big square hole for the carriage bolts,,,,actually those carriage bolts are 7/16" with a 9/16" sleeve built  on them.
    You got to have some kind of sleeve to protect the bushings from being worn away and spring rubbing the mounts.


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    Post by redvango Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:15 pm

    sorry no sleeve's! I hope to get over to the van Friday I'll take pics
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    Post by redvango Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:42 am

    leaf spring bushings Resize19leaf spring bushings Resize22
    leaf spring bushings Resize21                        the first is divers side front cartridge the second is the shackle bolt and the third shows how bad they are!! these are all original to the van!

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