by Scott Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:08 pmI’m guessing that the glove I pulled from this hole wasn’t stock from GM. What’s suppose to be here blocking the fumes, and what is everyone else using? I considered moving the harness underneath, but haven’t committed to it yet.
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Wiring Harness into the Doghouse..
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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There should be a rubber gromet around those wires.
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A grommet??? I thought my glove was original too??? j/k... Mine has a rubber grommet but I cant get it to fit in that damn hole 
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Scott here what the stock set-up looks like
do you have the connecter plug between the two harnesses or is it direct wired??? Can't tell from the pic's
do you have the connecter plug between the two harnesses or is it direct wired??? Can't tell from the pic's
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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Mine is direct wired, but from looking at the wire diagram its supposed to have a connector there.. Right?
I'm sorting out he best way to move on this, maybe I can fabricate a plug from a block of rubber, then drill a hole through it for each wire. Then put the connector on one side or the other.
Just thinking out loud here.
Unless one of you has a better idea..
Probably not much chance of me finding the factory replacement.
I'm sorting out he best way to move on this, maybe I can fabricate a plug from a block of rubber, then drill a hole through it for each wire. Then put the connector on one side or the other.
Just thinking out loud here.
Unless one of you has a better idea..
Probably not much chance of me finding the factory replacement.
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Yes there is a plug. Contact savage maybe he saved the one from that 68???
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i've got the plug and full harness/regulator. all you need is the plug?
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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I was getting ready to make a new harness and realized there is suppose to be a plug. Is the one you have from a straight 6? Don't know if it matters.
If your not going to use the harness, what are you asking for it?
If your not going to use the harness, what are you asking for it?
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from what i gathered in extracting this assembly from my parts van, there are three parts to the plug. a large piece of rubber with several connections that runs from the doghouse forward, and then two clips that connect to the plug and run into the regulator and some odd wires that run somewhere else. right?
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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I havent seen one before, but he pics you sent look like what I need. Just the wire harness, not so much the regulator, unless your just going to toss it. I still might make a new harness, but it would be nice to have the right plugs.
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You don't want to be using those 40 year old terminals in that connector, and the plastic surely is getting brittle,,,,,,and you might as well use a heavier gauge wire and new terminals,,,,,I think using any new connector off a newer car is a better way to go,,,,,,,
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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Wow, so much wisdom Donivan..
Hey copenhagenfiend, so to have put you out on this, but I think I will take Donivan's advice here and create something new. The pictures help though, nice to get the visual.
Sorry for the trouble..
Hey copenhagenfiend, so to have put you out on this, but I think I will take Donivan's advice here and create something new. The pictures help though, nice to get the visual.
Sorry for the trouble..
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not a problem at all. figured i'd at least lend a picture to your imagination
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Keep those pictures coming,,,,,it makes it easier to understand what everyone is talking about,,,,,
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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I've been digging through my wire harness cleaning up the splices and covering places where the shielding has rubbed off. My hope was to piece this together enough to get it running, and then go back with the upgrades later. I considered just buying a premade harness, but not really interested in dropping that much money.
I’m going to break out the harness upgrade into sections, and try to tackle them one at a time. The first section will be the engine since the harness is already completely disconnected from the engine, and hanging out the drivers door. Some time in the last forty years the junction plug was taken out where the harness feeds into the doghouse. I came across these trailer plugs the other day and am thinking about using them as a replacement. It might take two, but I may be a good solution.
What do y'all think?
Even with a 10 gauge wire, eventual 100amp Alternator, it should handle the load right?
They make plastic ones too, but I'm thinking metal because the harness comes in near the exaust manifold.
I’m going to break out the harness upgrade into sections, and try to tackle them one at a time. The first section will be the engine since the harness is already completely disconnected from the engine, and hanging out the drivers door. Some time in the last forty years the junction plug was taken out where the harness feeds into the doghouse. I came across these trailer plugs the other day and am thinking about using them as a replacement. It might take two, but I may be a good solution.
What do y'all think?
Even with a 10 gauge wire, eventual 100amp Alternator, it should handle the load right?
They make plastic ones too, but I'm thinking metal because the harness comes in near the exaust manifold.
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Thats a great idea Scott! how many wires are in there? Maybe a round 7 and a round 6 so that you cant cross the connections.
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Scott wrote:I've been digging through my wire harness cleaning up the splices and covering places where the shielding has rubbed off. My hope was to piece this together enough to get it running, and then go back with the upgrades later. I considered just buying a premade harness, but not really interested in dropping that much money.
I’m going to break out the harness upgrade into sections, and try to tackle them one at a time. The first section will be the engine since the harness is already completely disconnected from the engine, and hanging out the drivers door. Some time in the last forty years the junction plug was taken out where the harness feeds into the doghouse. I came across these trailer plugs the other day and am thinking about using them as a replacement. It might take two, but I may be a good solution.
What do y'all think?
Even with a 10 gauge wire, eventual 100amp Alternator, it should handle the load right?
They make plastic ones too, but I'm thinking metal because the harness comes in near the exaust manifold.
I was looking to buy this today, but just learned that it's rated to 40 amps. It looks more sturdy then the original plug, but I'm upgrading to a 100 amp Alternator.
I know that no one wire will draw 100 amps, but I'm also learning as I go and don't want to see the van go up in flames.
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For 1 thing, the alternator is connected right to the battery, only the feed wire to the ignition switch and fuse box will be going through the connector,,,,,,
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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I was hoping someone that knows electrical would speak-up..
So you think this would be fine?
I might even put in a relay by the starter, like you did. I just havent gotten that far yet.
So you think this would be fine?
I might even put in a relay by the starter, like you did. I just havent gotten that far yet.
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The Alternator output should go directly to the positive battery cable on the starter solenoid through a fusible link. Why don't you just run the wiring harness under the floor and up to the dash like around the speedometer cable,,,,,,you don't need to be sitting on top off that electromotive force field anyways,,,,,,
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I agree with Donivan... If your making a harness...run it underneath the floor! If I had to rewire mine I wouldn't hesitate to get those wire out from under the seat.
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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Oh yeah, theres always that.. 
Saves me from buying the plugs, and I won't have to cover it with carpet some day.
Saves me from buying the plugs, and I won't have to cover it with carpet some day.
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
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I need to quit trying to put it back together like it was and focus on how it should be.
Thanks for sharing the obvious; I need a little kick like that now and then.
