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    200 inline 6 swap, help

    Vangoat
    Vangoat


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    Location : Auburn PA.
    Age : 59
    Registration date : 2015-06-24

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    Post by Vangoat Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:51 pm

    Hello, new guy here. Just purchased my first van at age 49. A 61 econo with a 144 3 speed.
    the engine is rough. found a 200 from a 64 Ford Fairlane with a Ford o matic 2 speed 65,000 orig miles he says it runs good no smoke or oil use.Will this engine be a DIRECT FIT and mount to my 3 speed and will the carb hook up ok. Please help, need advise.
    cali2chitown
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    Location : Crown Point Indiana
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    Post by cali2chitown Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:47 pm

    Welcome to VV Vangoat. I know there's plenty of info in the forums about that. Click on the search button at the top and type in "200 swap"...here's one

    https://vintage-vans.forumotion.com/t44078-1964-170-to-200-swap-bell-housing?highlight=200+swap

    and another

    https://vintage-vans.forumotion.com/t41176-engine-swap?highlight=200+swap
    Barnabas
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    Number of posts : 2016
    Location : Raleigh, NC
    Age : 64
    Registration date : 2011-01-16

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    Post by Barnabas Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:51 pm

    It should bolt right up to your transmission. The 200 is a good fairly easy engine swap for these early Econolines and will give you plenty of power.

    Do you have the original transmission? 1961-1962 has the access cover on the side. Starting in 1963, the access cover is on the top. The top cover transmission is much better than the side cover transmission. A 1963-1964 Econoline transmission (top cover) will bolt right up to your engine and frame. You will need the 1963-1964 driveshaft as well.

    Does your 200 have 3 or 5 freeze plugs on the side of the engine? They made a change in mid 1964. The 5 freeze plug engine is the better one, but either is better than the 144.
    cali2chitown
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    Post by cali2chitown Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:53 pm

    Barnabas, What happened to everyones avatar?
    Barnabas
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    Post by Barnabas Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:24 pm

    I see yours and mine.
    Vangoat
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    Post by Vangoat Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:36 pm

    Yes my tranny is the early with side cover will it still mount up ok.
    Vangoat
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    Post by Vangoat Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:12 am

    Thank you for your input it is much appreciated.
    Barnabas
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    Post by Barnabas Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:59 pm

    Vangoat wrote:Yes my tranny is the early with side cover will it still mount up ok.

    Yes it will work. That transmission is not synchronized, so you just have to be careful when shifting.
    Big W
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    Post by Big W Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:14 pm

    Welcome to VV. Nice looking van. Post some pics when you can, weed love to see it. And remember...you're never to old to purchase a van. Very Happy cheers
    chrlsful
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    Post by chrlsful Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:39 pm

    sorry
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    Post by Das Boot Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:11 pm

    The 200 is a direct swap. Like said before, you want the 200 with 5 freeze plugs if at all possible. The othter that had 3 freeze plugs is somewhat of a unicorn that very few were made and I'm not sure of the parts differences. But as far as the engine swap it will bolt right up.
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    Post by Seth G Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:15 pm

    The earliest 200's only had 4 main bearings like the 144 and 170. This changed mid '64 to the seven main bearing block and is the reason the later block is preferred.
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    Post by chrlsful Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:33 am

    "...the later block..."a
    the dizzy shaft dia. is larger too.
    other changes (pollution controls/starter mounting) '72 plus models.
    ebjeepn
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    Post by ebjeepn Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:25 am

    I recently did this same swap. 200 for 170. The intake was different on the 200 as it is integrated with the head. I had to fabricate a throttle linkage to make it work. Other than that it was very easy.

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