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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Post by westcoastvanner Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:51 am

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    Post by Bruce67Econoline Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:21 am

    I love it,! Giving me second thoughts on how I might do my headliner. Nice find.
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    Post by Vantasia Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:31 am

    Nice but costly, I'm just about to get started using faux wainscot paneling from Lowes, it comes in manageable strips long enough to fit between the roof ribs or 8-ft. for a continuous installation and is a plastic material.  I'm leaving it white like a porch roof.  I can do the whole roof for under $100 plus white will make it brighter in the back (I have a windowless panel van).
    http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=304526-1487-7718&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3355466&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1

    Pics to follow as I proceed!
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    Post by vanny Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:04 pm

    I like them all! Vantasia, good thinking with the white to brighten up the back and keep it inexpensive at the same time!!! Great ideas on this site! Idea


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    Post by weirdbeard Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:17 pm

    why not just hack a window in on the side back there?
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    Post by threequartersleeve Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:39 pm

    I thought about using that white paneling, I think it's melamine maybe? Its that dry erase board looking stuff- pliable and shiny white, and comes in 4x8 sheets, just like the old 70's wood paneling! Anyone use either for an interior?
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    Post by Digz Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:19 pm

    8 feet doesn't reach from the back doors to the cab roof bow on the Chevys, You'll have to get creative for a few inches there someplace.
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    Post by Vantasia Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:10 am

    Digz wrote:8 feet doesn't reach from the back doors to the cab roof bow on the Chevys, You'll have to get creative for a few inches there someplace.
    I noticed that, you have to make a splice at the rear bow or at each bow so it looks balanced. With paneling you can use a joint strip which looks OK. I'm just gonna use a clean butt joint with the wainscot, no one will look that close at the ceiling....
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    Post by wideload Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:14 pm

    On my 67 I used a silver finished masonite and  added a extra roof brace so the 4 ft. width of the material could be cut to match the braces.

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    Then stripped the seams with a piece of stained wood.

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    Was a little extra work to add the extra support but by doing that(the best I can remember) it only took 4 sheets (4'x8') of material to do the whole ceiling.

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    Post by vanny Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:08 pm

    Wideload, that's a nice clean polished look on that headliner. The wood strips really finish it off nicely!!! Great work and thanks for the pics. What kind of insulation is that on the ceilings?


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    Post by Digz Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:44 pm

    It was blind luck,but I found 1/8" paneling at a manufactured home/RV surplus place that was 8'-6" long. It wasn't all matched color but I was covering it anyway. It also allowed me to have very little waste on the sidewalls and keep the stuff vertical with no corner trim. Just tossing it out there for something to keep an eye out for.
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    Post by wideload Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:04 am

    Vanny the insulation appeared to be a blown on cellulose type. I didn't do that, it was already in the van when I got it from Oregon.

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    Post by jimthefred Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:02 am

    My parts van has a wood headliner like the eBay ones. The guy I got it from was a woodworker and cnc milled a lot of stuff. I'm putting it all in my 64


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    Post by westcoastvanner Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:42 am

    Can you post photos when you are done?
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    Post by jimthefred Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:29 pm

    Sure! But you may be old and grey by that time Sleep
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    Post by westcoastvanner Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:02 pm

    I'm 64… I am already old and grey!
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    Post by jimthefred Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:37 pm

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    here it is, Ive got to remove it and sand and varnish the thing,You know-The fun stuff! I am going to add 4-5 cross braces with holes drilled in them for good looks Cool
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    Post by vanny Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:27 pm

    Nice job, that's gonna look great!!! Very Happy


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    Post by wideload Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:21 pm

    Already looks nice!!!!!!! It will really look good when you finish it.

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    Post by jimthefred Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:46 pm

    thats in the parts van,still gotta take it out Cool
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    Post by westcoastvanner Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:40 pm

    I like it!
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    Post by Vantasia Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:04 am

    I finally got around to finishing my rear headliner install using the Lowe's Ever-True faux wood wainscot panels!  As requested, here's the pics.
    First up, the insulation. I used the foil faced bubble type from Lowe's, but I also had access to a commercial 6' wide roll used to insulate long haul truck perishables (beer)! All edges were sealed with foil HVAC tape. (Also used to fill the window panels on my windowless panel doors as seen in some of the pics, bottom halves are fill with fiberglass).
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    I put it on with 3M spray adhesive in two layers.  Note, I found I had to build out the extra middle bows with a 3rd layer even with the steel bows to give the roof panels a mid point place to bond to with construction adhesive to prevent sagging, since the plastic panels are a bit flexible.  The first test piece sagged and this solved the problem, this wouldn't happen with real wood.
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    First row of panels installed!  I used white square drive head screws found in bulk on eBay and PL400 construction adhesive in the middle.  I put a piece of black door edge molding around the dome light for trim.
    The 3/4" self drilling screws.  My biggest fear was nipping one of the dome light wires inside the bows, but both lights still worked after I was done!
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    Proceeding to the center and rear around roof vent.
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    The finished roof.  I ended up putting a screw at every rib in the paneling to suck up tight against the roof bow curvature.  The plastic panels are flexible enough to conform nicely to the curve at the edges of the G-van.  Real wood panels would have cracked or had to be angled to meet the curve.
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    So there you have it!, I'm very pleased with the way it turned out and I like the white ceiling look like an old porch or boat roof.  This material was very easy to work with, it cut easily with a utility knife, very little mess and was easy to shape around the corners and lights with a wood file and sand paper.  Next I will panel the walls that have been insulated with a 1/2" thick jute material by the previous owner stuck on with spray glue. Figured I'd leave it, too messy to remove at this point and it seems breathable.  I may fill in the cavities with additional fiberglass.  Also note in the last picture, my 3rd roof top brake light. This is a plastic stick on unit found on eBay made for small utility vehicles like a Cushman, looks and works great and adds safety with small vintage van tail lights. Here's the brake light made for van roofs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/404-ROOF-MOUNT-CHMSL-3rd-Brake-Light-/351177454302?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51c3ceb2de&vxp=mtr


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    Post by Twinpilot001 Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:40 am

    Looks GREAT!!-- can you show the top of the roof so we can see all those screws coming thru??? affraid lol! lol! lol! lol! Like a =Honeymoon!!-Get =Her = DONE!! cheers
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    Post by Vantasia Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:00 am

    Twinpilot001 wrote:Looks GREAT!!-- can you show the top of the roof so we can see all those screws   coming thru??? affraid lol! lol! lol! lol!  Like a =Honeymoon!!-Get =Her = DONE!! cheers
    Not one did!  That was the first thing I thought of!  They are only 3/4" and the panels are about 5/16" thick plus the factory bows are another 3/4" so I was safe by at least 3/8"! The extra screws also add to the illusion that its real individual wood planks too....LOL

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