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    A van Body panel rattle

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    Post by Dawgboy Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:50 pm

    While I have everything out of my van, I am going through it to get rid of every possible rattle. I found that the drivers side wall rattles a lot, and it looks like the ?caulk? that is between the upright supports and the sheet metal has failed, causing the panel to slap the uprights while the van is moving. I am thinking I will just pry the gap open a little and squees in some PL construction adhesive...

    Anybody else have this issue?

    How did you fix it?

    Is PL the right thing to use?

    Thanks,

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    Post by mattimuss Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:02 pm

    Yes, I found the same thing when I was patching/cleaning/sealing my van.

    I cleaned the metal, had a friend apply pressure from the outside, then spot welded the outside skin to the upright support. Then I resealed the areas.

    Let me know if you need help, I'm not far away.

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    Post by G-Man Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:44 pm

    This happens on Chevys and econo's also just re caulk the seams
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    Post by dix Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:58 pm

    make sure the area is clean if the pl will stick then ok but what i used was a urethane caulking , So when it cures it would have a small amount of movement. I think the pl would cure hard , Then if there was any movement then it might brake free or fail. Don't go cheap in this case and use something beter than latex.


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    Post by Dawgboy Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:10 pm

    PL is strong and flexible, I have glued rowboats together with it and thouroughly bashed them. I swear the old stuff is just Butyl rubber...
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    Post by dix Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:28 pm

    that was all that was used back in the day.


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    Post by RodStRace Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:02 pm

    The outer skin must be able to expand and contract, so solid (weld, structural adhesive) would not be what I'd do...
    Something flexible and cushioning....
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    Post by Guest Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:13 am

    What is this PL stuff your talkin about? I have just used strips of corragated box strips and stuff them behind the supports to kill rattles. I have to do a couple more spots.
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    Post by Dawgboy Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:23 am

    http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/12/34/pl_ca_prem/overview/Loctite-PL-Premium-Polyurethane-Construction-Adhesive.htm

    I have half a case in the garage and it's tough and flexible. Great for bonding subfloors in housing construction to limit... squeeks... Tzhinking about going to get Butyl rubber instead though...
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    Post by dix Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:08 pm

    Pl 300 / 400 / 500 is all construction glue


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    Post by busman78 Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:35 pm

    3m Body Seam caulk, will allow for temp expansion while eliminating the rattle.
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    Post by G-Man Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:36 pm

    Any auto body paint supply will have the right stuff
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    Post by Dawgboy Wed May 01, 2013 3:10 pm

    So I tried a little PL, I have the stretchy Window and door kind, and it is ok... But I found that pieces of Reflectix "Double Bubble" Is MUCH better, so I stuffed a bunch of that under the various supprt members on the roof and walls. I am lining the entire interior with the stuff, have a 100' x 4' roll just for this purpose. Thanks for the cardboard suggestion, That's what I am going with...
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    Post by Gothboy Wed May 01, 2013 3:18 pm

    Ahahaa! I like it! Pad the rattle = no rattle. Smile

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