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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Bought a 1964 Econoline today!

    Rayallen
    Rayallen


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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:26 pm

    Made my day, now I just have to buy some new stuff from clifford to beef this baby up.
    Rayallen
    Rayallen


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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:29 pm

    Cleary my van has had a few mods in its day.
    austinmodhouse
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    Location : austin
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    Post by austinmodhouse Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:04 pm

    get out of town! you totally lucked into that. heckuva lot better than a 170.

    good for you!
    EconoCarl
    EconoCarl


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    Location : Beaumont, TX
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    Post by EconoCarl Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:14 pm

    Those extra 30 cubes will come in handy when you add A/C!
    Rayallen
    Rayallen


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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:38 pm

    yea buddy, im stoked! One less thing to buy. That made the wife happy. Thanks Sasktrini you post helped a lot.
    sasktrini
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    Post by sasktrini Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:54 pm

    My pleasure!!! I love it when a plan comes together Wink Looks like I misled you on the location of the cast number, so I'm glad you found it! Now that you've learned a few fact-digging secrets, you will probably be jazzed finding all the van's secrets! I know I was!

    I would recommend buying the Falcon Six Performance Handbook from off the Ford Six site, if you do any of your own wrenching. The engines are pretty simple in the grand scheme of things, but it's nice to know what things are recommended for hopping them up and learning the quirks!
    sasktrini
    sasktrini


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    Post by sasktrini Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:01 pm

    I'm just curious... does your van have a heater box? If so, is it mounted on the floor or under the dash? Just thinking that maybe the van is newer than a 64.
    If you want to get really stoked, take a look at the plug for the Brake Master Cylinder next to the parking brake handle. Is it rectangular or round? You may know that many Econoline owners have upgraded their braking systems to the 1967 M/C for the dual zone (front / rear) braking.
    There are other clues which might give you other secrets about what you have there. Of course, the VIN is one of those things!
    Does the van have a full engine crossmember passing under the oil pan, or the two arms at the sides of the oil pan?
    Rayallen
    Rayallen


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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:49 pm

    sasktrini wrote:I'm just curious... does your van have a heater box? If so, is it mounted on the floor or under the dash? Just thinking that maybe the van is newer than a 64.
    If you want to get really stoked, take a look at the plug for the Brake Master Cylinder next to the parking brake handle. Is it rectangular or round? You may know that many Econoline owners have upgraded their braking systems to the 1967 M/C for the dual zone (front / rear) braking.
    There are other clues which might give you other secrets about what you have there. Of course, the VIN is one of those things!
    Does the van have a full engine crossmember passing under the oil pan, or the two arms at the sides of the oil pan?

    Im positive its the 64. I have the 1st owners original Oweners manual with vin# Matching to the company Rex Floor Covering July 28, 1964. Pretty cool. My van does have the heaterbox under the dash. A rather odd looking device. According to the owners manual the heater was an accessorie option you could add on. LOL seatbelts were even a accessorie, cigerate lighter, locking gas cap. The van has all of those. Some more stuff to explore.

    Im going to crawl under there and snap some for more detail. Think im going to start a new thread in the members showcase in a day or two after I give the van its 1st bath in what looks to be a decade. Will be pic heavy.

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    econopoor
    econopoor
    Econoline Guru


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    Post by econopoor Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:12 pm

    Good deal on the 200. That really helps.

    Duane in Tennessee
    EconoCarl
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    Post by EconoCarl Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:22 pm

    Rayallen wrote: Think im going to start a new thread in the members showcase in a day or two after I give the van its 1st bath in what looks to be a decade. Will be pic heavy.

    Or you could get one of the moderators to rename this thread and move it to the Member's Showcase section. Just sayin'!
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:39 pm

    crowen57 wrote:
    Rayallen wrote: Think im going to start a new thread in the members showcase in a day or two after I give the van its 1st bath in what looks to be a decade. Will be pic heavy.

    Or you could get one of the moderators to rename this thread and move it to the Member's Showcase section. Just sayin'!

    That would work to. Mods can you do that? If not no biggie.
    sasktrini
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    Post by sasktrini Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:43 pm

    Hmmm... purchased in July of 64... heater is under the dash, not the floor... sounds like your van is actually a 65! You can confirm through the VIN, but there are also some design changes between 64 and 65 (heater box location, steering column brace shape).
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:26 am

    The black heater box is on the floor under the dash in front of the dog house. Sorry for the confusion you said under the dash. Misunderstood, didnt know you meant it was attached under the dash.

    Im trying to decode my vin, but am not having much luck. Cant find a decoder for it. Anything on the site for decoding?

    My vin E14TH567956

    EconoCarl
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    Post by EconoCarl Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:45 am

    Hey Ray, post all three lines on the data plate. EconopartsUSA (you out there Tim?) has been getting them decoded on the oldeconolines yahoo site for members here.

    To rename your thread, try sending a PM to Danthevanman (he changed mine).
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:55 am

    ive got

    E14TH567956

    090 M E145 589 A 03

    4850 85 5600 72
    EconoCarl
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    Post by EconoCarl Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:14 am

    I noticed that Tim hasn't replied on your thread yet, so I sent it in for you. Will let you know when Mark decodes it.

    Have you joined any of the yahoo groups yet? There is "oldeconolines" and "econosrus". Lots of info to be found there (and a little BS too! Laughing ).
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:19 am

    I was just told about oldeconolines, on my way to join now.
    EconoCarl
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    Post by EconoCarl Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:36 pm

    Here's what Mark came up with:

    E14= Econoline regular van
    T= 170 six
    H= Lorain, Ohio assembly plant
    567956=July, '64 build date ('64 model year)
    090= wheelbase
    M= Wimbledon white
    E145= van
    5=standard cab in red patterned vinyl
    89= van body code
    A= 3 speed manual
    03= 4.11:1 ratio, 2700 lb. capacity, 9" rear
    4850= Max. GVW
    85= certified net horsepower
    5600*= (3600) RPMs
    72= San Jose District Sales Office

    Mine came through San Jose too. Small world!
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:00 pm

    sweet thanks Carl. Wonder if I can find the red upholstery to make the front seat original again. Heck I dont ever know if the seat there are original. The door handles are the origianl red color.
    econopoor
    econopoor
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    Post by econopoor Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:59 pm

    Hey Ray,

    Fred Carello who is a member here and on the Yahoo groups can get the correct upholstery material and make you some nice seat covers for your truck.

    Contact Fred here.

    https://vintage-vans.forumotion.com/u34


    If you can come to the Midsouth meet you will be able to see some of Fred's handiwork in person and meet him as well. He has plans to be there this year. He is the man to see for your Econoline interiors.

    Here's a link to his Photobucket album that has a bunch of his work. Check it out.

    https://s225.photobucket.com/home/fmc56

    Duane in Tennessee.
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:02 pm

    Thanks for the links, he does some awesome work.
    econopoor
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    Post by econopoor Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:49 am

    And he's very reasonably priced too!

    Duane in Tennessee
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:01 pm

    My carpet removing adventure over the last several days Mad

    The van as mentioned at the beginning was originally owned by a Floor Covering business in the 60s through who knows when.

    Well the van came with carpet on the floors, doghouse, walls and even a small part of the dash. Not sure what these people were thinking but the carpet on the floor was 3 layers which held in moisture and caused a little surface rust. No big deal. The carpet on the walls was put on with heavy duty construction adhesive and it took me about 4hrs hrs to remove it using a heat gun to soften it, scraper and my own strength. There is even carpet padding in the crossbeams at the ceiling which have caused some surface rust. I probably sweat a few gallons sitting in a +100degree van with a heat gun.

    Ive gotten it all removed and now have to figure out how to remove all the glue on the walls or just leave it. No rust at all, just glue. the dog house top will be sanded down to primer and repaint.

    Some pics

    With carpet- before
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    And Now that Ive removed it all

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    Let me tell you guys, I had a blast removing it......



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    Post by Twinpilot001 Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:25 pm

    Yea -I know the Heat there= Evil or Very Mad but what about a nice fan inside with a Gallon of Texas Ice Tea? Beer -? Or Whatever? and= when i say a nice fan -I mean the ones sams & costco sells with about a 32" dia.Blades in it.!!
    Rayallen
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    Post by Rayallen Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:30 pm

    You know I was thinking about making myself a temp AC out of a Icechest a few small fans and some PVC untill I can afford to buy the AC from vintage-air. Ive seen guys do similar and it helps.

    As far as the walls im going to cover everything in Fatmat or something similar..

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