Buyer's Beware.. ( Seller's to Avoid or use caution when dealing with )

I always try to keep "All Posts" in "Happy Vanner mode" but there comes a time where a warning post is in order. With all the wonderful new members we have joining us this year I believe this is necessary. With some sellers now starting negative selling practices and after several discussions on the topic we should start a post on Bad/Questionable sellers. This thread should be for those seller's who post on eBay, Craigslist or any Posting/Selling website that our members might search for van and or van parts.

Please post with moderation:
If the seller has a history of ripping folks off, extremely high priced or inflated shipping to compensate for a $1 starting price, request payment through any "Untraceable " method. Please keep on mind the "one time" does not warrant posting here unless the seller openly admitted to screwing you. If this is the case please post their "Comments" here to warn everyone.
I have paid too much for a part I really needed before and not saying do not buy from anyone. Just would like all our members to be as informed as possible before engaging a seller with negative selling history with Vintage-Vans Members. When posting to this thread please explain in detail.

What the situation was:
Who- (User name(s), Where listed, Item links)
How- (Shipping hiking, Non- delivery of items, Over inflated shipping or pricing or illegally titled, Etc.)
Where- ( eBay or Craigslist. kiwi, Etc.)
Remarks- (Any relevant info our members should be aware of)

Thanks,
DanTheVanMan

And of course I will start this off....

1964 Chevy G10 Van - $5,000 (New Castle) (Bad "Truck" Title)

http://pittsburgh.ebayclassifieds.com/classic-cars/new-castle/1964-chevy-g10-van/?ad=9465986

Email this guy several times asking about the truck title and the fact that the the van is a late 65 or 66. He's ignoring me now.....

COOL LOOKING 1965 CHEVY VAN G10 (WARNING- BEWARE!)

He has just removed the Van from Craigslist... Hope he didn't just "RESELL" it again!

Here's one of his other listings:
http://amarillo.craigslist.org/pts/2214359076.html

He's back!!! Same van, same price. For sale for the 6th or 7th time. This van has sold on eBay several times and this guy keeps re-listing it 6 months after it has been sold.... This is the same guy who has been ripping off vanner's on eBay for years.....

Just a Warning for those of you looking for Early parts on eBay.
There is a Seller: drs6969 out of Amarillo, TX, Please be very careful. He has a long history of ripping folks by selling on eBay and not sending items then reselling those items months later. If you’re the first buyer, you get ripped off. If you’re the second from what I have been hearing you may actually get the part. And some are in such bad shape they can't be used, only trashed.

HE WILL ONLY TAKE MONEY ORDER BANK/CASHIERS CHECK. AND WILL NOT ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS PERSONAL CHECKS OR PAYPAL. *** Basically he won't take any form of payment directly traceable back to him.

These folks on eBay have all been ripped-off by the jerk buying van parts. Most never received their parts, others received items in such poor condition they were just tossed in the trash. (ky3023, 1824white, shark2959, thunderkiss61, deepwatersales, rr72nrz, 64madmax, starlet9x, mizeboy, monniesssw).

And Yes, I am one of those listed above. Hindsight and a lot of research on this guy turned out to be a real "Bitch" and a $120 complete loss..... "Beware".

Here's a caution post. Seller: Welder-joe on ebay.

Has some very cool items for sale. please be aware of his shipping costs! Many items have a $0.99 starting price but have shipping prices well over 1000% of what would be actual cost. I emailed about the cost of 5 items and was quoted a combined shipping cost that was still well over 600% of actual.

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I have just been contacted twice by what I now know to be a known scammer.

I was suspicous of the email and the not answering my questions so I googled the email name, address and full text. I discovered many links to this same email scm attempt at others selling everthing from hay to you name it.

Some how they found out I had brake brackets to sell. That could only have come through the vanning comunity because I donot advertise brackets anywhere else.

Here is the name used.
Bob Wilson “Urgent order”

False email address that shows in the email “from” line.
sales.anderson1@gmail.com

Real address wbob505@yahoo.com

Used to go by the name Mark Anderson

The scam email looks like this, but place the words of what you are selling into the brackets

Hello
This is Bob and I will like to order ( Disc Brake )Do get back to
me with the types and cost for the ones you do carry and let me know
if there is an extra cost when using visa or master Card.Kindly get
back to me with your name Are you the sales manager or the Owner?
Regards....
Bob Wilson

I think you should not contact the above addresses, or you will be on thier list. They do money fraud but also ID theft.

The only place I talk about selling brake brackets is on www.vcvc.org and www.vintage-vans.com


There is a site online called the Haybarn that has a large list of known scammers by name and address.

http://www.haybarn.com/main/scams.asp

Stay safe
M1D

Thanx to all who have made all of us aware - great job - Ive also become cautious to ads that ask for a quick deposit and payment by bank draft or cashiers check- NEVER PayPal - careful- If it was only legal to kill some people =There would be a lot less scammers out there !!

I have bought several items from WelderJoe and never a problem The shipping wasn't out of line and the quality was nice. I am getting ready to buy a few more parts from him

vanishingbreed wrote:I have bought several items from Welder-Joe and never a problem The shipping wasn't out of line and the quality was nice. I am getting ready to buy a few more parts from him

Mike, that post was a "Caution" post. Joe has some really cool stuff. And most shipping is in what we would call normal ranges but about 20% have highly inflated shipping to compensate for a $1 or very low starting price. I too ordered many things and got bit big-time on my first order ($87 shipping on a $127 order). I have been very careful since. He has some nice things, just watch the total shipping when he combines, he only drops the shipping about 10% from the shipped separately price. Not the impression I got when I talked to him. Just one of those "Buyer Beware" things..... Very nice guy!!!

Dan

Sounds like he should stay on our list. Gouging on shipping is just as bad as selling junk

Case and point:
If you bought these items (Actual listed items)(Yes, you can "Click" on them)

1. Aluminum Battery Tray
2. Ford Dip-Stick
3. 3-Hole Gauge Bezel
4. RAT ROD AIR INTAKE
5. Small Custom Door Pulls

The total cost of all five items: $174.41
Now shipping would be: $117.38
And now your total cost is: $291.79

He does give "Combined shipping" discounts if and "only if" you contact him in advanced. (His words, not mine) So, you get $11.70 (10%) off your shipping if you bought all of these items.

"Anyway, my point is please check the shipping before bidding...."

Most of Welder-Joe items are priced very well as are the shipping costs and again, he's a really nice guy and I don't want to discourage anyone from buying from him. Just be aware of the total cost.

Dan

I only buy his "buy it now items" and they always seem to be fair on the shipping. I have seen other sellers charge .99 for an item and $175.00 for shipping. When I see excessive shipping I always report the seller to ebay

*update- I got an apologetic phone call this morning and he promised me that he will make it right and get me a usable panel to replace the hacked panel. So I will update again after He follows through.





Well Heres my bad experience by a fairly new member A100Wrench ..... His name I will keep to just Joe. I have his last name as well but I am giving him an opportunity to get square w me. He contacted me via PM. We talked on the phone,seemed like a nice honest guy. he stated he had the wheel openings off a van and he would remove them and mail them to me. He did, and I got them a long with the lock I asked for as well.(took awhile but he said he had to fix his forklift to access where the van was which was a few months). Long story short I got the package today and the panels are complete turds that I paid $75 each for plus freight. I sent him 2 PMs but havent heard back.... Probably wont either. My biggest gripe is one of the panels has been cut up and reworked or as I call it completely fucked up. It appears that it is a homemade repair panel or a poorly cobbled attempt at a repair panel. The other panel was original but had rust through and was creased in a part that I now have to rework if it can even be saved. My biggest problem is during our phone convo None of this was disclosed and I was under the impression I was getting ORIGINAL UNMOLESTED PANELS, not one original panel with rust and creased damage and a hacked panel that has been cut up and reworked. I would have just gotten something else. I am on a budget on this thing and now I am out $175 plus still having to waste time and money to repair my already cut up body on my van. Heres the panels, what do yall think?

original panel with rust through. not a huge deal but let me know what im getting.

Carbboard template of wheel opening off a unmolested van compared to crappy panel that has been reworked.

you can see where the edge has been cut with tin snips and then rolled back into a fender lip, its not a crisp bend like an original. ugh.


iriginal panel with factory reinforcement seen on top, crappy panel on bottom with all the holes and no reinforcement.

well =wheelie -thats just sad to hear & see!! We have lots of new members here -so just be cautious till we see how they actually are? I do think its best to trust in all yet we do seem to get bit as many newbies are just wanting to sell junk to the "Good Guys " Most of us old members will always help another vanner with what we can -thats really why we are still here too! Sad to know that -Happy vannin!!

VERY WELL STATED T.P.

Thanx - us old members always take care to the vanners i do believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Thanx - us old members  always take care to the  vanners i do believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My buddy dropped off his van for some repairs tonight and he told me he found
parts vans (theres actually 2!)so hopefully I will have some parts I can see and touch. It's crazy how things come full circle.

I spoke with him this morning. He is sending me a replacement panel so we will see! I updated my original post to reflect that I do believe he is trying to make it right with me.

Glad to hear that. keep us updated...

Good to hear he making this right

YEA I agree he has to make good on those panels they are repairable but in really rough shape. Too bad you missed those NOS ones a while back...........I had a guy a while back from Ebay trying to get me to pay for a part he had for sale outside of his Ebay account so he would not have to pay them witch is highly recommend NOT TO DO from Ebay because of scammers or fraud so I did not reply back...Boy there are really some JERK OFF'S out there these days you really have to watch your self.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally, I won't buy anything off e-bay unless they except pay-pal and if the shipping cost more than the part, I give it serious thought.

I wanted to update on the bad body panel issue. I received the replacement panel today and was extremely satisfied. Joe (A100wrench) really stepped up to the plate to make it right. Lesson I learned is to make sure I ask and get a good description of any used item if no picture is available. Oh andmaybe not rant about it before giving the guy a chance  I would definitely trust Joe again on future transactions. He actually has found a seat bracket I have been looking for despite the previous hiccup and offered to help me out. I definitely give him credit for doing the right thing.     

Love to hear that!