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G-Man
wideload
DanTheVanMan
Eagle1
donivan65
Scott
10 posters
New Fuse Block
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°1
New Fuse Block
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12245
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°2
Re: New Fuse Block
What's next,,,,,you want us to come over and wire it for you?
The horn, hazard lights, tail lights, stop lights and dome lights are hot all the time,,,,,,,
The horn, hazard lights, tail lights, stop lights and dome lights are hot all the time,,,,,,,
Eagle1- Number of posts : 144
Location : Prescott, MI
Registration date : 2010-09-18
- Post n°3
Re: New Fuse Block
Headlights too, Nice piece of wood!
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°4
Re: New Fuse Block
Don, I'd consider buying you a plane ticket if I thouht you would do it.
E1, Maybe I should list that wood as an 'EXTREMELY RARE! Antique Fuse Block' on eBay.
Starting bid, $250.00
Thanks for the info, I'll post the replacement when it's done.
E1, Maybe I should list that wood as an 'EXTREMELY RARE! Antique Fuse Block' on eBay.
Starting bid, $250.00
Thanks for the info, I'll post the replacement when it's done.
DanTheVanMan- Commissioner
- Number of posts : 7905
Location : Escanaba, Michigan
Age : 62
Registration date : 2008-10-08
- Post n°5
Re: New Fuse Block
Hahahaha... Sorry Scott, you kinda did ask to get nailed by Don for asking that question!
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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport
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Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°6
Re: New Fuse Block
Yeah, I'm am being kind of lazy.
But I figured other members that had already done this would be able throw the information out there, that it would be good info for the site, and that Don has probably done this fifty times.
He should just be happy that I don't live next door..
But I figured other members that had already done this would be able throw the information out there, that it would be good info for the site, and that Don has probably done this fifty times.
He should just be happy that I don't live next door..
DanTheVanMan- Commissioner
- Number of posts : 7905
Location : Escanaba, Michigan
Age : 62
Registration date : 2008-10-08
- Post n°7
Re: New Fuse Block
I think he's happy we all don't live next door! We would drive him nuts! But you look like your wiring has be completely redone so you'll need to hit the diagrams if you plan on putting in a stock or aftermarket fuse block. Other than the obvious fact that you have a... 'EXTREMELY RARE! Antique Fuse Block'. Why are you replacing it? Is it not working or do you want to return it to stock?
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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport
My Mini Gallery
Eagle1- Number of posts : 144
Location : Prescott, MI
Registration date : 2010-09-18
- Post n°8
Re: New Fuse Block
https://sites.google.com/site/vcvcvanaticmap/colorizied-wiring-for-a-2nd-gen-chevy-van
Scott, here is a link to a 67-70 wiring diagram for your van.
Scott, here is a link to a 67-70 wiring diagram for your van.
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°9
Re: New Fuse Block
I replaced all wire coming from the doghouse and need to tie it into the wiring under the dash. This old wire job looks like a fire hazard, or at least something that's going to leave me stranded. So I'm getting rid of it before it becomes a problem.
I cut down a plastic cutting board I bought at Walmart and mounted a couple of fuse strips I bought from a local swap meet. My plan is to put magnets on the back so I can just stick it to the wall under the dash, and make the wires long enough so I can just pull it off the wall and out where I can see it.
I cut down a plastic cutting board I bought at Walmart and mounted a couple of fuse strips I bought from a local swap meet. My plan is to put magnets on the back so I can just stick it to the wall under the dash, and make the wires long enough so I can just pull it off the wall and out where I can see it.
Eagle1- Number of posts : 144
Location : Prescott, MI
Registration date : 2010-09-18
- Post n°10
Re: New Fuse Block
Scott,
What kind of fuse block did you use? Did you buy a wiring harness? If so what kind? I will be rewiring my van next. I think I am going to use a EZ wiring harness
http://www.ezwiring.com/wiring_harness.html
$170.00
What kind of fuse block did you use? Did you buy a wiring harness? If so what kind? I will be rewiring my van next. I think I am going to use a EZ wiring harness
http://www.ezwiring.com/wiring_harness.html
$170.00
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12245
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°11
Re: New Fuse Block
Here is a picture of a REAL 2nd Gen fuse box,,,,,,and I sure am liking this Mazda one for the future. Those glass fuses are trouble. You go to Pick a Part and you can see many good ones sitting under the hood just waiting for you to take them off. The headlights have their own circuit breaker built into the switch,,,,,,and you need to add fusible links to make your system even safer,,,,,,,
wideload- Moderator 1st Class
- Number of posts : 1389
Location : Kevil, Kentucky
Age : 71
Registration date : 2008-05-11
- Post n°12
Re: New Fuse Block
Scott you might want to consider this option. GP70 did this swap on his a few years back. This is from one of his post from the old forum.
I had the opportunity to grab some parts off a 73 or 74 Chevy Pickup a few months ago and one of the things I grabbed
was the fuse box. The fuse holding tabs are rusted thru and hardle make contact anymore. Didn't give a good look
but thought I could draft it into the 70 somehow. Well, yesterday I take a look at it and, son of a b***h, if it isn't a direct
match to the one on the 70. Talk about lucking out. There will be some splicing involved, but if anyone is looking for a
new fusebox for their Sec. Gen., look no fiurther then a 73 pickup. And I suppose you could grab as much of the wiring
harness out of a 73 and keep the splicing down to a minimum.
Original
73 pickup
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I had the opportunity to grab some parts off a 73 or 74 Chevy Pickup a few months ago and one of the things I grabbed
was the fuse box. The fuse holding tabs are rusted thru and hardle make contact anymore. Didn't give a good look
but thought I could draft it into the 70 somehow. Well, yesterday I take a look at it and, son of a b***h, if it isn't a direct
match to the one on the 70. Talk about lucking out. There will be some splicing involved, but if anyone is looking for a
new fusebox for their Sec. Gen., look no fiurther then a 73 pickup. And I suppose you could grab as much of the wiring
harness out of a 73 and keep the splicing down to a minimum.
Original
73 pickup
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WIDELOAD
https://vintage-vans.smugmug.com/Chevy-GMC-Vans/Wideloads-65-66-67-68/i-CK5s29s
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°13
Re: New Fuse Block
Thanks for all the info, I remembered that the same fuse block was used in a pickup, but couldn't remember the year. I also bought a fuse block from a Vanner parting a van out, but it's too rusty. But I picked some fuse blocks up at a local Swap Meet that should work pretty good. Here is what they looked like when I got em.
I am at the point on the van were it's odds and ends all over the place. During the last few days I've spend most of my time working out the sifter linkage, installed a flexible transmission dipstick, and have picked at the wiring a few times. Later today I'll post what I've done so far with the new fuse block.
I am at the point on the van were it's odds and ends all over the place. During the last few days I've spend most of my time working out the sifter linkage, installed a flexible transmission dipstick, and have picked at the wiring a few times. Later today I'll post what I've done so far with the new fuse block.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12245
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°14
Re: New Fuse Block
In my book, you aint gaining much by putting a 1973 fuse box into a 1968,,,,,,those glass type fuse systems corrode easily and those rivets come loose. They run hot and the clips loosen up and rust out. Choose something newer,,,,,,,,,,
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12245
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°15
Re: New Fuse Block
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°16
Re: New Fuse Block
I dug through the Wire Diagram, and a rusty Fuse Block, and figured out what goes to what, and if its always on or switched.
This was modeled off of a 68 G10
Constant Power from 12g Red (Also directly feeds the Horn, Ignition Switch and Light Switch)
Constant Power feed from Light Switch 16 Dark Green
Switched Power feed from Ignition Switch 12 Pink (or Brown)
This was modeled off of a 68 G10
Constant Power from 12g Red (Also directly feeds the Horn, Ignition Switch and Light Switch)
_Flasher_ | _16g_ | _Brown_ | _Column_ |
_Fuse_ | _16g_ | _Orange_ | _Light Switch_ |
_Fuse_ | _18g_ | _Orange_ | _Stop Lamp Switch_ |
Constant Power feed from Light Switch 16 Dark Green
_Fuse_ | 20g_ | _Gray_ | _Dash Illumination Lights_ |
Switched Power feed from Ignition Switch 12 Pink (or Brown)
_Fuse_ | _18g_ | _Pink (or Dark Green)_ | _Dash Light Indicators_ |
_Fuse_ | _14g_ | _Brown_ | _Heater_ |
_Fuse_ | _18g_ | _Dark Green (or Pink)_ | _Backup Light Switch (Side of Transmission)_ |
_Fuse_ | _18g_ | _Yellow_ | _Windshield Wipers_ |
_Flasher_ | _18g_ | _Purple_ | _Column_ |
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°17
Re: New Fuse Block
What size fuses are used for each of these?
Is it based on wire gauge, what its powering, or both?
Is it based on wire gauge, what its powering, or both?
G-Man- Mayor
- Number of posts : 30743
Location : Fowlerville, MI
Age : 63
Registration date : 2008-05-06
- Post n°18
Re: New Fuse Block
There use to be wiring diagram here and that should say what fuse
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°19
Re: New Fuse Block
Fuses should protect the wire. To really dial it in you need to know what the load is from each item on any circiut. I got this from a quickie google search for an example. http://www.oznium.com/forum/topic15761 It also makes a difference on how long the wire is going to travel, stuff in the dash not so far,, If its traveling to the back of the DH wire size would need to be adjusted to allow for that. I know I have found better tables for this but they didnt pop up this time ..
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°20
Re: New Fuse Block
My Wire Diagrams show that the Windshield Wiper power wire is a Yellow 20 Gauge, but that seems like a pretty thin wire for the wiper motor. Do y'all show a different wire gauge for this one?
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°21
Re: New Fuse Block
On the 1st gen diagram I have it also shows a 20ga. Does seem pretty lite??
veefre- Number of posts : 424
Location : San Leandro, California
Registration date : 2008-09-10
- Post n°22
Re: New Fuse Block
I went through the fuse box resuscitation about a year ago on my '67.
Water dripping down from the leaky windshield (rust?) had done a number on it. I applied copious amounts of electromotive spray cleaner, which unfortunately had the side effect of making most of the labeling invisible or at least hard to read.
Then I pulled all the fuses and sanded or fine filed the contacts free of most rust. Then I added copious amounts of silicone grease to the terminals. Back in went the glass fuses (new in most cases) and haven't had much of a problem since. Until I replace the windshield and gasket and fix whatever else is causing the leaking, I try to keep it out of the rain.
Good to see a pick of the '73 fuse box because it gives me an idea of what the labels are supposed to be...
Eventually, I may go to the blade type mini or micro fuses. But for right now the glass is ok. Any water on a fuse box is bad news, and while I suppose the aluminum legs on the mini fuses are more resistant to corrosion than the chrome plated steel on the glass fuses, I figure as long as the glass stays dry it should be OK. And aluminum can corrode in water, as well, forming that nasty white powder.
You mileage may vary.
Water dripping down from the leaky windshield (rust?) had done a number on it. I applied copious amounts of electromotive spray cleaner, which unfortunately had the side effect of making most of the labeling invisible or at least hard to read.
Then I pulled all the fuses and sanded or fine filed the contacts free of most rust. Then I added copious amounts of silicone grease to the terminals. Back in went the glass fuses (new in most cases) and haven't had much of a problem since. Until I replace the windshield and gasket and fix whatever else is causing the leaking, I try to keep it out of the rain.
Good to see a pick of the '73 fuse box because it gives me an idea of what the labels are supposed to be...
Eventually, I may go to the blade type mini or micro fuses. But for right now the glass is ok. Any water on a fuse box is bad news, and while I suppose the aluminum legs on the mini fuses are more resistant to corrosion than the chrome plated steel on the glass fuses, I figure as long as the glass stays dry it should be OK. And aluminum can corrode in water, as well, forming that nasty white powder.
You mileage may vary.
panelmanrd- Number of posts : 801
Location : kcmo
Age : 63
Registration date : 2009-10-04
- Post n°23
Re: New Fuse Block
one thing you could try to keep the corrosion and rust to a min,
get some de-electric grease, same thing as the light bulb grease
and lightly coat all the contacts in the fuse box and the fuses, if
it works on the light bulbs it sould work on the fuses. what u think?
get some de-electric grease, same thing as the light bulb grease
and lightly coat all the contacts in the fuse box and the fuses, if
it works on the light bulbs it sould work on the fuses. what u think?
veefre- Number of posts : 424
Location : San Leandro, California
Registration date : 2008-09-10
- Post n°24
Re: New Fuse Block
Silicone grease == dielectric grease
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
- Post n°25
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Good reference for wire gauges and fuse sizes..
http://www.hotrodsandclassics.net/usefulinformation/wireandfusequide.htm
http://www.hotrodsandclassics.net/usefulinformation/wireandfusequide.htm