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    Post by EconoCarl Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:05 pm

    Got all of the leaf springs and front axle out of the '67 Heavy Duty today. A local frame and front end shop had the bushings in stock so we'll be replacing them. Below is a pic of the artwork we removed from under the front end of the turquoise van! We'll attack it again tomorrow.

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    Post by benwah Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:16 am

    Gotta love a green window van!
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    Post by Indian640 Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:13 am

    Wow ! He`s not heavy, he`s my front end!
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    Post by EconoCarl Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:48 pm

    Got a lot done today. Had all of the bushings replaced in the springs and pulled the second longest leaf out. Got the front axle cleaned up and ready to install. Removed the big-a$$ bracket that held the bags and cut off a plate that was covering the sway bar attachment points. Straightened the badly tweaked shift rods (boy were they in a bind!). Took the D&D Master Cylinder off of the white van and installed it in the new one. Belly pan from blue van is painted and ready for install. Should have the front end all done Sunday.
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    Danny cleaning the crap off of the axle. The king pins on the turquoise van's axle were actually the best of the three.
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    Cutting off the bracketry for that held the airbag set up. This has gotta' help out with cooling!


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    Post by econopoor Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:57 pm

    The man is on a mission!!
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    Post by EconoCarl Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:06 pm

    Cisco cleaned and painted parts for me today. I'll get over tomorrow and start re-assembling the front end and change over the disc brakes. Maybe even go for a test drive!
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    Post by EconoCarl Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:05 pm

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    More stuff had to be ground off!
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    Front springs, minus 2 leaves and front axle installed. (This pic was taken before we removed the bottom leaf).
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    Put old hubs on so we could see what it looked like back on the ground. We'll start working on the rear next.
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    Post by DanTheVanMan Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:04 pm

    WOW! "Man on a Mission" is right!!!! Now that's fast work!!! Looks great!!!


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    Post by sasktrini Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:17 pm

    That looks real nice!!! You must've had someone sittin in the back of the van!
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    Post by econopoor Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:03 pm

    That's looking great Carl. You got a lot done this past weekend. I was wondering if all the rain that came thru got to you. Glad to see the TQ's made their way to the new van. Lookin Goooood!!!

    Duane in Tennessee.
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    Post by EconoCarl Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:59 pm

    sasktrini wrote: That looks real nice!!! You must've had someone sittin in the back of the van!
    The rear is sittin' low 'cause it's still bagged, for now! I really liked the low look, but not the hassle of the bags. I want the rear a little higher and would like the front a little lower.

    econopoor wrote: Glad to see the TQ's made their way to the new van.
    Three of them made it, had to replace the other.
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    Post by benwah Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:07 am

    Looking good!
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    Post by EconoCarl Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:24 pm

    Got a little more done today:
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    Pulled the carb to put a kit in it, and yanked the radiator to have it checked and rodded out.
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    Moved on to the rear suspension. Removed the air-bags and some of the bracketry. Since the frame was notched and the spring pads were already flipped, i decided to keep the rear end on top of the leaf springs (pulled off of a "Heavy Duty" parts van).
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    After sitting it back on the ground the rear was lower than the front so we removed yet another leaf from the front, now I'm thinking we went a little too far!
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    Post by EconoUSAparts Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:12 pm

    Mount the springs on the frame rails instead and it'll sit a wee bit higher, then you can put the leaf back in front. While your at it,do a mini tub. Thats exactly what Im doing on my pickup right now.
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    Post by lectricman Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:26 pm

    does the bed floor have to be cut out to put the rear axle on top of the springs??? always looking for ideas that take more time than money... since I have more time than I do money... Laughing Laughing

    I think your Van looks Killer just the way it sits...
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    Post by EconoCarl Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:31 pm

    EconoUSAparts wrote:Mount the springs on the frame rails instead and it'll sit a wee bit higher, then you can put the leaf back in front. While your at it,do a mini tub. Thats exactly what Im doing on my pickup right now.

    Hey Tim,
    I'm not following you on mounting the front springs to the frame rails, could you be a little more specific for this dumb a$$? LOL
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    Post by EconoCarl Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:34 pm

    lectricman wrote:does the bed floor have to be cut out to put the rear axle on top of the springs??? always looking for ideas that take more time than money... since I have more time than I do money... Laughing Laughing

    I think your Van looks Killer just the way it sits...


    Thanks! The floor was cut out by the PO when he bagged the van. Looks like I might have to raise the floor a little to clear the diff. Time will tell!
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    Post by EconoUSAparts Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:03 pm

    Carl, Im talking the rear springs. You only removed another front spring cuz the rear was lower than the front and now its a bit too low. So put the front spring back in and move the rear springs inward to the frame and it will sit higher. Crawl under your van and you'll see the difference in height in the 2 mounting locations.
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    Post by econopoor Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:49 pm

    Hi Carl.
    If you take out too many leafs it will ruin the handling. Too soft in the front and too stiff in the rear will hurt balance as well. Too soft will also bottom out going down the road.
    Measure the ride height when you get it where you want. Then put the leafs back together and measure the difference. Then have a spring shop re-arc the springs to the correct height. That's the only way I know to get the ride right when you lower one.
    Duane
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    Post by lectricman Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:00 pm

    If I flip the rear axle and move the springs to the frame rail, will I need to notch out the bed floor??
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    Post by EconoUSAparts Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:31 pm

    lectricman wrote:If I flip the rear axle and move the springs to the frame rail, will I need to notch out the bed floor??

    Good question,maybe not but I havent gotten that far yet. Im raising the bed floor height anyway in mine to faciliate other things anyway.
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    Post by lectricman Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:28 am

    sorry for the hijack Carl..... let us know what you decide to do in the rear and if you need to leave the floor cut out please.... I love the way it sits but if it affects the way it handles then thats a problem... It is nice to have them looking kiler but you still have to be able to drive them... keep up the great work.....
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    Post by EconoCarl Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:14 am

    econopoor wrote:Hi Carl.
    If you take out too many leafs it will ruin the handling. Too soft in the front and too stiff in the rear will hurt balance as well. Too soft will also bottom out going down the road.
    Measure the ride height when you get it where you want. Then put the leafs back together and measure the difference. Then have a spring shop re-arc the springs to the correct height. That's the only way I know to get the ride right when you lower one.
    Duane


    Thanks Duane,
    Once again common sense prevails! I plan to have the springs re-arched later; right now I'm concentrating on getting to Arkansas for the Mid-South Econoline Meet Labor Day weekend. I just hope the ride isn’t too bad! Laughing
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    Post by econopoor Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:42 pm

    I hear you buddy!! Still trying to get my truck ready. LOL.
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    Post by EconoCarl Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:09 pm

    RodStRace wrote:Are you still going to take it in for inspection? It would be interesting to hear what they have to say....


    Still haven't made it the the inspection station. Waiting to be able to drive it! Hopefully next week (and w/o the bags).
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