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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Post by Big W Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:10 pm

    This is a single fan set up from a taurus wagon with A/C. I'm not sure if the dual fan set up is small enough for the 240 rad, but knowing what I know with mine...I no I don't need the dual fan set up. This fan cools a V8 with a new rad and 180 degree thermostat
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    Post by Buzzard Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:19 am

    Thank you very much for the pictures. Back to the yard again to find a single fan from a taurus, a couple of them all had the dual set up and i just couldnt figure how you guys were fitting a dual fan set up in tha small amount of space. Walked around that yard for about a hour with my ruler trying to find the right size fan yet big enough. again thank you for the pictures..
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    Post by Big W Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:17 am

    pics speak volumes in here...lol. Again look for late 80's early 90's Tarus wagon with A/C. I found 2 kinds if single fans systems. Compare them and grab the bigger one. you can trim the shroud to fit our rads. Happy hunting.
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    Post by Dawgboy Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:19 pm

    I decided to buy a 14" fan from Godspeed. Cheap chinese crap, I know, but at $26.00, it should add some flow. I figure since it only pulls about 6 amps, it won't do it all on it's on, so I am keeping the OEM fan and mountingthis on the front side. Found a good how-to to reverse it and will run a switch and light, as well as that nifty timer setup I saw either here, or at /6.

    http://www.godspeedproject.com/Godspeed-Radiator-Cooling/universal-electric-radiator-slim-fan-14-inches
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    Post by Buzzard Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:46 pm

    Thank you again Big w went to the yard today, 28 taurus cars, only 3 with large fans and out of that, only one good enough to pull out, the one i got looks like it has a breaker that plugs into the fan and then the harness plugs into the breaker??. 30 percent off this weekend and it cost me $21.00 out the door, not that bad of a deal Now i need to get the rest of the parts and my next long weekend i got something to do besides the honeydew list. Again thank you for the pictures for the correct fan..
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    Post by Big W Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:47 pm

    Anytime buzzard, glad I could help. cheers 
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    Post by m1dadio Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:26 pm

    My fan is a two speed single fan from a 1990 Taurus SHO car.
    You got a good deal I payed $90 for mine.

    Does your fan have 3 heavy wires coming from the motor?

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    Post by Buzzard Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:25 pm

    Yes it does. I called napa to find out what was pluged into the fan in between fan and plug to find out it is a $120.00 relay that connects to the ecm to turn the fan on and off. Im not even going to try to make it work Im just going to go eather with the dual relay or search around a little bit and see if i can run across a Volvo fan realy assembly. First have to go out and buy a mustang alt, cant seem to find one in any yards around here and nobody on craigs list is selling them (been looking for a long time)
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    Post by m1dadio Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:04 pm

    If you fan is the same as mine you don't need the ford relay. There is a guy in CA who builds cooling systems for larger and towing vehicles Chevy trucks and what ever, and he has a relay kit all made up , wiring and everything which I paid about $45 for (good deal)

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    You need to get a couple sensor switches for your engine. it runs the two speed fan to high only if the temp keeps climbing.

    wires like this
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    This is the guy, check out his site

    This is actually what I started this thread about

    http://www.hollisterroad.com/index.htm

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    Post by Buzzard Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:19 pm

    Thanks for the info, I see now its up to $70.00 for the harness. What happen?? plastic get more expensive or is the word it out on these stock fans that out perform aftermarket fans and cashing in on the hot market??
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    Post by m1dadio Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:47 am

    Be certain your fan is the straight up two speed with three wires and not the one that needs the "Variable speed control modual"

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    Post by Buzzard Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:12 pm

    Ok now you got my attention, how do i figure out what fan i got now??
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    Post by Dawgboy Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:45 pm

    So here's an interesting thought... A friend that is an ASE cert. Mechanic, and is the head mech at a local goodyear suggested to me that my oem fan may be part of the issue with high temps at freeway speeds because it "puts a tremendous load on the engine at high rpms" and that I should remove it and try running with just the electric pusher...

    I'm a little skeptical of this... What say you, valued advisors??? Pic of my fan for ref. Is this a flex fan?

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    Post by Twinpilot001 Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:44 pm

    NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by Dawgboy Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:03 pm

    Nope to the fan? I was sure it was not. It's solid Iron...
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    Post by Big W Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:19 pm

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    Post by dan nachel Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:47 pm

    I removed my mechanical fan, but I mounted the taurus fan as a puller like it was made to be. This meant spacing the radiator out to make room. It works fine. My switches are manual, low speed soon afer starting the engine and high speed when it warms up. On hot (100+) days it will get up to about 120 but my belly pan needs to be expanded to the front.
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    Post by Buzzard Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:35 pm

    What temp ratings are you guys useing to turn the fan on at low and high speeds??
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    Post by mo_1040 Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:51 pm

    I think mine is a 180 for low and 195 for high... I don't think mine has ever had to go to high speed yet. Also switched over to a ford 160 amp 3g alt which I think was a great improvement over the 180 amp gm alt I had in there.
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    Post by m1dadio Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:54 pm

    It all depends on what temp your engine is supposed to run at and where you can mount the switches (not sensors).

    The hotter the engine runs the more efficient it will e to a point.

    My 305 chevy v8 is supposed to run at 217*,  I use a 180* high flow thermostat with a 195* low speed fan switch in the intake near the thermostat and a 230* switch in the cylinder head connected to the high speed fan. I don't use a belly pan and yes on hot days when I haul ass around 70mph and better it begins to get hot but never boils over with the 18# rad cap and runs in the normal for my engine rang every other time under normal driving.

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    Post by dan nachel Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:12 pm

    There has been a lot of talk about cooling, and it got me to thinking. What did Dodge do diferent than ford or chevy. Dodge came from factory with v8's. What is diferent about their dog box,belly pan, or radiator that allowed them to run a v8 without the overheating problems?
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    Post by dix Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:02 pm

    we run hot just like every one else. But as always someone post what they did and someone else tends to slap the idea's down. Timing, lower stats, hi-volume water pump, alluminum rad, scoops on the belly pan , tunnel thru the floor , electric fans, fans in the back of the dog house, Hi volume fans , clutch fans , steel fans, and the list goes on...


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    Post by dan nachel Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:44 pm

    I thought there might be a significant diference in the way dodge made them from the factory. I didn't know they also had overheating problems.
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    Post by mo_1040 Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:29 pm

    Switched over to a ford 3g 160 amp alt... I like it, I know it's a single belt but it only chirps for like a split second when starting up with the gates vbelt. Will eventualy switch to a serpentine belt system later on.
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    Post by Buzzard Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:15 pm

    Going to install the taurus fan and my question is, where is the best place to install the temp sending unit. I already have a sending unit in the front of the intake manifold for my temp gauge. Im running a Ford 302 V8 with a Edelbrock performer 289 intake manifold

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