Need a motor crossmember

Hi guys, new to the forum so thank you for having me. I picked up a 62 falcon club wagon van about a year ago. I pulled the 144 and I'm installing a 300 inline. What im looking for is a crossmember from a 65,66,67 240 Van or pickup that will also bolt to this 300 I have. I've had no luck finding one around me. Any one hear have one I can buy? Or a lead. Thank you
Dave
Tried to post photos of my van but I'm doing something wrong. Sorry

Lets see what Old Skool Vic says,,,,,,he makes them for V8's

Welcome to VV Dave. Lots of people have parts for sale in here so I'm sure you will be able to find one. Keep an eye on the parts for sale section and post what parts you need in parts wanted as well. Look forward to pics, Once you get the pic thing figured out.

A 200 will drop right in there with no modifications.

Thanks guys, I'm checking out a wrecking yard today that a buddy told me about. Was told there was two 66 pickups out there. Person on the phone wouldn't go out n check on the parts. Dose anyone have Vice number? I already have the 300 to install. It was rebuilt.

If we mention Vic enough, he should show up here.  

You are looking for the correct crossmember, but your 1962 does not have a place to mount it. Beware that the frames in our Econolines are tapered (ie. the walls are not parallel).  Vic makes the parts you weld to your frame to enable you to mount your 1965-1967 240 crossmember at the right location.

Do you have a transmission to bolt to the 300?  You can not use your 1962 transmission.

The 300 is a large engine. You will need a larger doghouse like the kind that came in 1965-1967, including the bump in the floor.

You also need to find the cable throttle linkage and pedal assembly that was used in the 240 engine.
And I assume you have already installed a 9" rear axle to handle the extra HP.

Click on the Member button at the top of the page, then search for "Old Skool."  Send Vic a PM (personal message) explaining what you are doing.

As Seth G said, the 200 will bolt right in without any of these modifications, and give you plenty of power. You will want to look at upgrading the 1962 transmission to a 1963 or later.

Thank you Barnabas, I found a 66 Van at pick n pull some time back n took the 9", transmission, driveline and some other small parts. I wanted to keep the 3 on the tree. The only thing was missing was the motor crossmember. I have the trany bolted up to the motor with new clutch kit installed. I was planing on cutting the floor for a hump n building a new doghouse. I build roll cages n do metal fabrication. I was just going to build my own crossmember n might still do that.  I'm running the EFI exhaust n a 4 barrel manifold so I new I would be reshaping that doghouse. I didn't know about the frame rails being different from the latter vans. I was thinking it would bolt up to where the other mount where. There is two bolt holes on each side. I thought I would just add a nother set on the other side of the rail.  It looked liked like that's what they did from other build photos I've seen. I wish I would have grabed the linkage like you mentioned. Maybe I should just go back to building my own if I would have to modify a stock crossmember to work anyways. Your thoughts?

EDIT: looks like I missed your last post and you have this figured out. I Look forward to seeing your build.

There are a lot of things involved in getting a 300 to work in a van that came with a small six.  The oil filter has to point down so you need to have the adapter to do that.  The alternator mounts on the left side, most 300s out of trucks have a right side mount.  You need the support for the Z bar for the clutch.  The PCV needs a 90 degree adapter at the intake so it won't hit the dog house.  The spacer for the fan is shorter than most 300 applications.  The oil pan is also different on some applications.  You will need an offset air cleaner the one on the 144 won't fit the 300.  Others have mentioned the throttle linkage, the big bell housing, and the heavier duty 9 inch rear.  The 300 is also a lot heavier. It is a worthwhile project, but not like swapping out a 200.

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Thank you for the info AZ Supervan, Im going to install Vintage Air also. I'll need to work out brackets on both side of this 300 block. This is my first Van build. I've built lots of cars. Just got done installing a LS3 motor in a 55 chevy. I appreciate everyones help. Nice to be told before you try something to fined out you can't do it.

Nice looking van. I'm looking forword to seeing your progress as the build comes along

I put a 289 in my Falcon 40 Years ago, no book or internet, it still runs today. You were asking for help, some replied with help.

I believe the oil filter will have interference without the offset 90 degree adapter the stock 240 uses. The frame flanges on your van are located roughly 4 inches different in location as compared to the ones on a 65-67 model. You'll need to add 4 new flanges or cut off the towers on the crossmember and redo them for your engine to be located correctly. I have a crossmember on a parts truck here and the oil filter adapter also.

Thank you, I'm interested in the oil filter adapter. I have the motor sitting in the van n it looks to me to be sitting to low. The new transmition mount I built is sitting so that the driveline will just clear the floor brace and with the 4 barrel manifold at level. The lowest point of the oil pan measures 8 1/2" off the floor and the tie rod measures 7" off the floor. The oil filter is touching the underside of the floor. Dose that sound right? I was thinking it would be sitting a little higher but I won't be able to lift the transmition any higher without notching the floor brace.

Okay,,,,,,,,, been trying to get to this email for many days now and so will try to answer this as fast as I can today.  This about the tenth try!!!

I have been advising how to do this for years now   "the inboard frame mount is approximately 4" rear ward of where it needs to be"... For ten years now I have been listening to other people quote my information,,,,,,,,LOL

Your doghouse is an early and they didn't come out with the 240 option until 65,, LOL.. Ford making the doghouse specifically taller on purpose in 65 because of the taller 240 motor??

So,, your doghouse is 1 3/4" SHORTER in height than the late and also does not have a hump for added breathing room (WHICH YOU WILL NEED FOR A BIG SIX) as well as added bell housing clearance!!!!!!!  SO, ,you need one,,,,,,, Talk, to Tim and purchase also the floor hump out the donor truck to match.

 The 90 degree adapter is a no brainer,,, Ford put it in there to clear things,, get one from a big six Econoline or,, I see them all the time in the yards,,, also I have them in stock

NOTE:  Mentioned for years now,,,  REPLACE the o rings and use a copper washer instead of the factory fiber washer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    



Use the stock 240 engine cross member (not the 170),, locate the inboard forward bolt hole on your existing frame mount and bolt it to the rear ward bolt hole on the 240 engine cross member. This will locate it correctly (same advise I give for the oil pan to clear the tie rod on the front axle on a V8 conversion),,,Its the same,,, LOL ALSO mentioned for years,,  the frame is NOT 90 degrees!!!!!!!  both sides are tapered,, and so here is what you need to do.... 
   Weld in a 3/16th plate from the front of your existing frame mount forward to the forward edge of the 240 flange mount using plug welds. This piece from the floor and down to 1/4" ABOVE the edge of the frame. I do this on purpose to allow me to weld on the bottom flange and grab all three pieces with the bottom weld,, The idea is to install a flange for the cross member to bolt up to that is FLUSH AND PARALLEL with the bottom of the frame! and if you build it in place it can only be perfect!!!  I then make the bottom flange with the forward hole matching the new cross member. Drill a simple larger diameter hole, you will weld a nut on the top anyways!!! BOLT it all up and now you will have a flange that is welded to the upper piece using that 1/4" gap to weld it all together as one.. Now you can simply bolt the new x mbr up and its flush with the bottom of the frame and not sticking down at an angle....  Mounting the outboard frame mount the same way if you make one, other wise I use and sell the OEM frame mounts from scrapped trucks.... 


  Use my transmission cross member for ANY Ford transmission with an under transmission mount. The donut mount is not strong enough for a small six let alone a hopped up 300,, LOL... I designed the cross member to swivel and contract and expand and to also clear most any exhaust system... It allows you to SET the motor... Using both of them solves your issues!!! If you want  a manual, use the 3 spd manual from a GENII,, its a short, solid output yoke and uses the under transmission mount ,, 
  If a C4 use the under transmission type mount, I have them in stock,, if a C6 use the short DRIVERS SIDE SPEEDO one,,, I have those in stock,, IF an AOD,, it will bolt up to my transmission cross member already,,,,

GAS PEDAL:   DUMP the 170 pedal and use the 240 (duh)  I have units that I install new bronze bearings into as well as I sell the 240 throttle cable.

I also make the automatic steering columns as well as a shift cable conversion as well as new shift indicator plates  and other stuff... sure takes a while to down load all the pictures,, dratzzz

late for working on orders,,,,,,  krud,,
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Thank you Vic for taking the time to give me all the great info. I got the top mounting trany out of a 65 Van. I had my trany mount built n didn't like how it was sitting low so I cut it all out n notched the floor support. Boxed it all in n cut the trany mount to shorten it. I like how it sits now. I'll contact you to pick up some things.