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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Post by Big W Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:18 pm

    No amp test yet, as I am not sure how to do that, or what equipment would be needed to do an amp test.
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:49 pm

    ,,you need an Ammeter like the two I used in my video to measure the amount of current that a fan uses while running,,,,,you just put it in a line and it shows what is flowing through it,,,,,Sy says his Ford took almost 60 amps to run it,,,,,and Vic probably says 37 amps,,,,,that is really using up a lot of juice,,,,,,the van might not even start if you left the fan on too long to cool down the radiator.....
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    Post by Big W Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:40 pm

    I will have to pick up an ammeter next week or borrow one and see what mine is drawing. Can't get your video to run but I get the idea of how you explained it by putting it inline. I presume you put it on the positive wire?
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:04 pm

    An Ammeter goes in a line,,,,,dont matter which one,,,,,just tells you how much juice is going through that wire,,,,,,,you NEVER want to hook it between Positive and Negative,,,,,,you could have 800 amps going through it if you connect it to a car battery that way,,,,,,bad stuff WILL happen,,,,,,now in my pictures here,,,,I got an old car ammeter,,,,put some wires and alligator clips on it and hook it between a wire,,,or,,,I gots me a fancy digital one,,,,,made to plug into a fuse box to see what is blowing fuses,  and I did the same thing to it,,,,some wires and alligator clips so I can test what is going through a wire  while the equipment is running.......


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    Post by donivan65 Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:40 am

    Today I am into changing the rear main seal in my motorhomes 350 engine



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    Post by donivan65 Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:28 pm

    Well,,,,,,,,this sure aint your Daddys cork oil pan gasket set,,,,,,,,,,,,has new longer bolts, collars built into the gasket to prevent overtightening the gasket and clip pins that screw into the block that the gasket snaps over to hold it in place while you put  the pan on....


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    Post by donivan65 Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:35 pm

    So,,,,,,while  sitting and holding on to the steering wheel for 80 hours on my road trip last month,,,,,I had plenty of time to make a list of things to do when I got back and felt like doing them,,,,,,I ripped out the A/C system in my motorhome to upgrade the condenser and hoses,,,,it has the original barbed connectors with heater hose clamps on them and those 25 year old hoses are pretty hardened and won't seal any more as well as that R12 condenser needs to be changed out.....and,,,,since I don't want to get stranded 2000 miles from home, and I got the front end apart,  I am building a towbar bracket so I can at least rent a U Haul truck and tow myself home if I had to,,,,,,


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    Post by 61econoline Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:00 pm

    Hey Don looks like your pretty busy.To answer a few of your 3g alt questions The fan I put in my econoline with a 289 was out of a 90s taurus 3.8 motor. I ran a 65 v-8 mustang rad had to modify the shroud some as it was a little large as I recall I kicked the bottom of the rad support forward for a little clearance.I used your Idea to run the low speed side for cool down using a fan timer. The 3g alt was out of a 90s cougar, used the stock gen light wire to excite it,tried the one pulley belt drive but I couldn't get it to stop slipping after locating some two groove pulleys that problem was solved. That 289 would idle all day long and not overheat Ran the fan thru two 50 amp relays using an inline switch to kick on the high speed side at 180degrees and set the timer for ten mins after shutdown solved my fuel boiling issues felt like a desert breeze when you walked behind the truck with the fan on they put out some cfms. working on putting a 289 in a 61 van right now I plan on using the same upgrades on this one Mick
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    Post by donivan65 Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:34 pm

    There is no simple easy solution,,,,,so far,,,,,,,,the fan uses a lot of power,,,,,you get a bigger alternator to make it,,,,,,the Alternator needs a lot of power to turn it,,,,,,1 belt cant get the job done,,,,you need to add another pulley, but that what it takes to keep an Early Ford cool,,,,,at least for now,,,,,,unless you want to reinvent the whole van,,,,,,,and thats what we have now,,,,,,,
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    Post by NipRing Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:42 am

    Hands down, you're one of the most interesting guy i know.
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    Post by donivan65 Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:08 pm

    Strange might be a better description,,,,,,,HOWEVER,,,,,here is something interesting,,,,,,an A/C system has 4 parts,,,,,,,a Compressor to pump the Freon around,,,,a Drier to store the Freon,,,,,an Evaporator with a fan in it and a Condenser to get rid of the heat,,,,,the Evaporator is like a magnet,,,,it pulls the heat out of the air that is around it,,,the fan then blows that unheated air out to you,,,,,the Freon takes that heat out to the Condenser where the engine fans blows it away,,,,,,how cool is that?????



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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:28 pm

    ...hope I don't get deported.....






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    Post by donivan65 Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:02 pm

    ,,,went out for a cruise today and found one,,,,,,,



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    Post by vanny Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:35 pm

    Personal transportation cruiser? What are your plans for it?


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    Post by donivan65 Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:57 pm

    ,,,,,well my favorite vehicles are ones that are under $1000, don't run,and I tow them home,,,,,so looks like I got me a Chrysler,,,,,,,,the head and 2 camshafts are sitting in the trunk,,,,,,,I need to upgrade my fleet,,,,,,looks like my 78 Dodge Omni with 350,000 miles on it has to go,,,,,,,so let me tear this apart and see what I got,,,,,,,,,,this sure is a fancy type of Omni,,,,,,,,, Surfer Scott will be stuck changing diapers for a long time,,,,,so I got me some free time......



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    Post by vanny Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:10 pm

    I think it's found a good home! Always liked the look of these. Reminds me of the Volkswagen kits they used to have for the bugs. Have fun with it!!!


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    Post by VANagain Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:35 pm

    Wow, Don, adding a PT Cruiser to the stable! I liked those from the start, but I expected them to be bigger, like the old cars they were fashioned after. I see you got a 1st Gen! I like the grill better on those than the later models.

    There are a lot of 3rd party retro add-one made for these. I'll help you paint some flames on it!
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    Post by donivan65 Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:52 pm

    ,,I don't know anything about PT Cruisers, except I kind of liked the way a Cream colored one looked,,,,,,and I keep hearing  G-Man saying,,,,,you better do what you like before you run out of time,,,,,so I got me one,,,,,,it has power everything,,,,,but the engine is in a million pieces,,,,,,hoses, brackets, bolts and wires hanging everywhere,,,,,,it overheated,,,,,,warped the head,,,,,I think I will pull the engine and try and figure out where all this stuff goes,,,,,,,or another engine comes my way....


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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:43 pm

    Me, Rich and Steve cruised over to a car show yesterday,,,,,,we did see one Dodge Van,,,,


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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:48 pm

    Dropped the engine and the trans out the cruiser,,,,,,I got this blue  engine thats been laying around for a long time,,,,,wonder if it will fit,,,,,


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    Post by vanny Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:19 am

    That oughta give it some get up and GOOOOOOO!!!


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    Post by Twinpilot001 Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:58 am

    thats a partial improvement!! Ford engine in a chrysler!!!  cheers lol! 
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    Post by vanny Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:05 am

    And a V8!!!


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    Post by 64chevy Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:56 am


    Years ago Don Yenko was able to fit a 427 in a 73 Vega so can the Donivan fit a 351 in a PT Cruiser...???


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