vin decode

can someone tell me more about my 1963 HEAVY DUTY pickup the vin is E10TH612794

Can you post the whole data plate. I can find out a lot more info from it than just the vin number.

Duane in Tennessee

Heres all the info:
E10TH612794
090 L E102 C87 G 05
4930 85 3800 21
Thank you for helping me out.

Hi

Here's the decode.

E10 = Econoline pickup series
T = 170 engine
H = Lorain Ohio assembly plant
612794 = November 1964 serial number - 1965 model
090 = wheelbase
L = Holly Green paint
E102 = Econoline pickup model, 1 ton (Heavy Duty)
C = green custom interior (Custom Equipment Package)
87 = pickup body style
G = C4 automatic transmission
05 = 4.11:1 heavy duty axle (9 inch)
4930 = 1 ton GVW rating
85 at 3800 = certified net HP at RPM
21 = Atlanta sales district

Looks like it's a typo somewhere. Either the title year or the vin number got changed at some point. You can verify the vin usually on the rear coner brace inside the bed above the taillight. Most have it in the right rear but I've seen some on the left. They are some differences between a 63 and a 65. 65's under the dash heater vs 63's floor heater. 65's trans hump and no hump on a 63 are the easy ways to verify the year.

Duane in Tennessee.

my van has under dash heater and the trans hump it also has differnt moter mount crossmember,than other pickups that I have seen.it has factory 4 way flashers and my vin plate is mounted on the back of the door.it came from covington ga. I could not find any numbers on the corners Ill get a wire brush and check it out better.I thank you for you time and information.

Always a good idea to double check door plate with the serial number on the body. Just to be absolutely sure that they match, then you'll no for sure what you have when looking for parts. These vans and trucks have been known for door swapping and that can lead to buying parts for a 63 when it is actually a 65...lol. Found this out when I purchased the master cyl. Bought a single when I actually needed a double.

serial number E11TH253487
w.b. color model E110
Trans Axle A 02
D.S.O 0172
need this decoded please thanks

Hi Blue Oval.

Here's what my expert had to say about your VIN.

Duane, that's most of the tag for a '62 Falcon; possibly all of it if the paint code is blank. Here ya go:

E11 = Falcon Station Bus series
T = 170 engine
H = Lorain Ohio assembly plant
253487 = January 1962 serial number - 1962 model
(-) = blank paint code? = special order color if so
E110 = Falcon Station Bus model
A = 3 speed transmission
02 = 4.00:1 light duty axle (7-1/4 inch)
0172 = special order number (no district codes yet in early 1962)

I have its sister truck on record (253481) which I found in a junkyard back in the '80s, same DSO code, and listed as a Bell System van, so it would indeed be a special order color, and that is the whole dataplate.

Jay in CA

Did your van used to be a Bell Phone Co. van??

Duane in Tennessee

Thank's Jay, this is great information. I was hoping it was a 62, good to know it is.

Can someone help decode my van.

vin# E14TH541942
WB 190
Color L
Model E143
Body 389
Trans A
Axle 2
Max 3600
Cert net 85
RPM 3600
Dso 13

It's a 1964 van built in June 1964.
The Wheelbase number probably looked like "190", but I assume the rivet holding the tag blocked the first part of the "090" making the first "0" look like a "1."

Get the full run down of your door tag at this address.
http://www.econolineid.com/vehicle.php?v=1285

Input data from any 1961-1967 Econoline at this address and get instant results.
http://www.econolineid.com

bugman wrote:Can someone help decode my van.

vin# E14TH541942
WB 190
Color L
Model E143
Body 389
Trans A
Axle 2
Max 3600
Cert net 85
RPM 3600
Dso 13

Here you go Bugman.

E14 = Econoline van series
T = 170 engine
H = Lorain Ohio assembly plant
541942 = May 1964 serial number (1964 model)
190 = *090* = wheelbase (inches)
L = Holly Green paint
E143 = Econoline van model, 1/2 ton
3 = green standard interior
89 = van body style
A = 3 speed transmission
2 = *02* = 4.00:1 light duty axle (7-1/4 inch)
3600 = 1/2 ton GVW rating
85 at 3600 = certified net HP at RPM
13 = New York sales district

Duane in Tennessee.

That's great, now we know the van is original to the area and retains all of it's original paint, running gear etc.
Thanks again

I just entered my truck into the database(E10TR272829). It looks like it was already in there??I dont think that I entered it twice. I had submitted my vin on the oldeconolines yahoo group, so maybe someone entered it from there.
Thought it was interesting that my 5th digit is an "R". I will have to look and make sure that I am not reading it wrong. Also my D.S.O is 6613 and noone seems to know where district 66 is... I would guess here in Nebraska, like Omaha or something.

Kurt

Barnabas wrote:It's a 1964 van built in June 1964.
The Wheelbase number probably looked like "190", but I assume the rivet holding the tag blocked the first part of the "090" making the first "0" look like a "1."

Get the full run down of your door tag at this address.
http://www.econolineid.com/vehicle.php?v=1285

Input data from any 1961-1967 Econoline at this address and get instant results.
http://www.econolineid.com

bugman wrote:Can someone help decode my van.

vin# E14TH541942
WB 190
Color L
Model E143
Body 389
Trans A
Axle 2
Max 3600
Cert net 85
RPM 3600
Dso 13

I know, I know, this is an earlies site. And the best one on the internet for that matter. But I need some help.

Talking about vin decoding. I've got a good one for you. I bought a 1972/73 E200/300 Econoline van a few weeks ago. WildBillinVA told me about it about a year ago. I am still trying to figure out what I've got. LOL

If anyone knows anything about the 2nd generation vans, I sure could use some help in "decoding" this one. I know the VIN# is correct as I have confirmed it on the body. The van is original. It is all decked out inside like a Club Wagon, but bare bones on the outside. Has air, PS, PB, auto. trans. Now, here's the kicker. It has E200 Econoline on the doors, an E200 VIN#, but it has an E300 eight lug wheels chassis with 16.5 wheels and tires.
What's that all about. And the VIN# indicates its a 1973 model but its titled as a 1972. Its build date was 9/72 which would also indicate being a 1973.

Any help you guys can give me would be appreciated. So far all parts for a 1972 and 1973 are the same and I am treating it as a 1973.

Here's the data:
Vin: E25GHQ01309
Wheel Base: 123
Color: No code listed
Model: E251
Body: 22
Trans: G
Axle: 17
Max GVW: 5450
D.S.O: 250121

Hi,

My friend Jay was able to come up with this decode.

I don't have a collection of second gen numbers or junkyard notes to work from, so all I can do is give you a "book" decode and a bit of speculation.

E25 = E200 window van series
G = 302-2V engine
H = Lorain Ohio assembly plant
Q01309 = September 1972 serial number - 1973 model (1973 production began at Q00,001, so this is a very early 1973)
123 = wheelbase
- = blank paint code = special order color
E251 = E200 window van model, 5450 pound GVW (E200 GVW options were 5250, 5450, and 6000)
22 = blue standard vinyl interior (Econoline, not Club Wagon)
G = C4 automatic transmission
17 = 3.25:1 3300 pound 9 inch axle (9 inch, not an 8 lug)
5450 = middle GVW rating for an E200
25 = Richmond sales district
0121 = special order number

Based on the numbers the 8 lug suspension didn't come there - it should have a Ford 9 inch with the 5 on 5-1/2 "truck" wheels, not an 8 lug Dana 60.

Hope this helps,

Duane in Tennessee.

Yes Duane, that's the mystery. No modifications have ever been done to the van. All I know is that the original owner special ordered it. I purchased it from the second owner and they new the first owners, so they know the history of the van. That special order number is what gets me. Did the original owner order a 1 ton front end and rear axle on a 3/4 ton E200 van?

Kurt

I'm sure the R in your ID number is really an H, because all of the Econolines from 1961 to 1967 had an H as the 5th digit. I updated yours in the http://econolineid.com database.

I just fixed the way the database was reporting the DSO, so yours reads correctly now.

From 1961 to mid-March 1962, the Regional Sales District was not identified in the District Special Order (D.S.O.) space on the tag. Thus, your 6613 is only the Special Order number.

Starting in mid-March 1962, they started adding the 2-digit Regional Sales District code, and special orders had a six-digit DSO code. The first 2-digits were the Regional Sales District and the last four digits were the Special Order number.

Emil

12speedfurd wrote:I just entered my truck into the database(E10TR272829). It looks like it was already in there??I dont think that I entered it twice. I had submitted my vin on the oldeconolines yahoo group, so maybe someone entered it from there.
Thought it was interesting that my 5th digit is an "R". I will have to look and make sure that I am not reading it wrong. Also my D.S.O is 6613 and noone seems to know where district 66 is... I would guess here in Nebraska, like Omaha or something.

Kurt

Twday,

It's hard to say. The suspension is what makes it a E200 or E300. It is possible that the dealer made the changes. Maybe it was ordered as a E200 by mistake and the suspension was swapped before delivery. No way of telling now. Strange thing happen.

Duane in Tennessee.

Duane,

I guess we will probably never know. Its definitely strange. Oh well, thanks for the help with trying to find an answer.

Yep, I double checked and it is an H. I took a picture of it and the glare made it look like an R. Thanks for the extra info. I wonder what was special ordered on this truck......
Kurt

Barnabas wrote:Kurt

I'm sure the R in your ID number is really an H, because all of the Econolines from 1961 to 1967 had an H as the 5th digit. I updated yours in the http://econolineid.com database.

I just fixed the way the database was reporting the DSO, so yours reads correctly now.

From 1961 to mid-March 1962, the Regional Sales District was not identified in the District Special Order (D.S.O.) space on the tag. Thus, your 6613 is only the Special Order number.

Starting in mid-March 1962, they started adding the 2-digit Regional Sales District code, and special orders had a six-digit DSO code. The first 2-digits were the Regional Sales District and the last four digits were the Special Order number.

Emil

12speedfurd wrote:I just entered my truck into the database(E10TR272829). It looks like it was already in there??I dont think that I entered it twice. I had submitted my vin on the oldeconolines yahoo group, so maybe someone entered it from there.
Thought it was interesting that my 5th digit is an "R". I will have to look and make sure that I am not reading it wrong. Also my D.S.O is 6613 and noone seems to know where district 66 is... I would guess here in Nebraska, like Omaha or something.

Kurt

Can not seem to get the econo site to work , can anyone help with this one. Found this plate also . Any  idea where it should mount? Thanks

Sorry about that, econolineid.com is the old address and should automatically go to econoline.org.
http://econoline.org
It appears that you finally found it, since the data is already in the database.

The second tag you have is the "build tag." It has details for the Ford assembly crew.  These often got lost.

6-65 is the rotation number, which means it was planned to be the 65th vehicle made on the 6th day of the month.  Combine this with the other tag and we find that your van was the 65th vehicle to be built in Lorain on May 6, 1967.  Sometimes they were built out of order.

708453 is where the single digit paint code is usually.  Since yours has a special paint, this is probably the special code for the special paint color.

14-1 is a short van with the standard interior.

WIND means this is a window van. Windows all around.

G-M  is about the number of windows. M might mean that there is glass all around.  I don't have all the data for these tags.

1 TON mans it is the Heavy Duty version. Your other tag lists the GVW at 4930 pounds.

AUTO means automatic transmission.

CIGAR means it got a cigar lighter.

SP-Z means a padded dash and glove box door.

PASS ST means it has a passenger seat.  (that was always an option on these Econolines)

720624 is the special order number for this van. Same as on the door tag.  72 is the San Jose district, and the rest is the order number.

Please post some more pics.

That Build Tag is usually found under the black wiring cover on the passenger floor.

Barnabas wrote:Sorry about that, econolineid.com is the old address and should automatically go to econoline.org.
http://econoline.org
It appears that you finally found it, since the data is already in the database.

The second tag you have is the "build tag." It has details for the Ford assembly crew.  These often got lost.

6-65 is the rotation number, which means it was planned to be the 65th vehicle made on the 6th day of the month.  Combine this with the other tag and we find that your van was the 65th vehicle to be built in Lorain on May 6, 1967.  Sometimes they were built out of order.

708453 is where the single digit paint code is usually.  Since yours has a special paint, this is probably the special code for the special paint color.

14-1 is a short van with the standard interior.

WIND means this is a window van. Windows all around.

G-M  is about the number of windows. M might mean that there is glass all around.  I don't have all the data for these tags.

1 TON mans it is the Heavy Duty version. Your other tag lists the GVW at 4930 pounds.

AUTO means automatic transmission.

CIGAR means it got a cigar lighter.

SP-Z means a padded dash and glove box door.

PASS ST means it has a passenger seat.  (that was always an option on these Econolines)

720624 is the special order number for this van. Same as on the door tag.  72 is the San Jose district, and the rest is the order number.

Please post some more pics.

Thanks for that info. I did not put it in the data base, guessing the po did. I,ll get some more pics up.