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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    New guy from Florida

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    Location : port richey, fl
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    Post by Stoopid john Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:15 am

    dix wrote:the shifters had differnt locations depending on the year. old post here will help you with this . did you get the shifter cable??? do you have the connection @the tranny.????

    I did get the cable and i think i got what i need for the tranny. The end of the cable has a bracket with a single hole and the cable it self has a clevis. But i don't know for sure, i haven't seen one work.
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    Post by Stoopid john Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:53 pm

    What a difference!!!!! It stops now!!

    The last of my parts showed up yesterday and i got an early start this morning. All in all it was pretty straight forward, the only issue i had was the brackets went on the wrong sides. (followed the instructions) They say welds go to the outside and calipers to the rear (except a100, calipers to the front). But they didn't say welds to the inside.

    Here are some pictures and everything i bought totaled $363, i also didn't have to pay any core fees.

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    You can see with the welds on the outside, they are too close the the rotor. I trimmed the bolts before i found the problem.

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    I couldn't find a stud until i was finished, i thought i left it at work.

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    They look good behind the crappy wheels!!

    The worst part of the whole thing was making the room needed for the new master cly.

    The stopping power is way better, plus the fact that my van was a 108 with 10" drums. Stops straight too, i need to relearn not to steer into the brake pull.

    I also fixed a brake line from another owner, kinda scary to see that kinda fix.

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    Post by kykayaker37 Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:18 pm

    that kinda fix would work just fine compression fittings are actually stronger than the line,dave
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    Post by dix Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:29 pm

    do you know what parts are used????


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    Post by Stoopid john Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:53 pm

    Here's a link that i got from a guy before i bought mine. The funny thing is on his sheet, they say inward!!! That's frustrating!

    http://www.orchidlakecandles.com/manual.pdf

    When i received the brackets from Scarebird it came with the pair of bango bolts. I got the calipers and master from Rockauto, hoses and pads local, the rotors on ebay.

    Just another note, the calipers clear the swaybar links, close but it clears.
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    Post by Stoopid john Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:28 pm

    Drove it to work and back, what a joy to drive now. I still find myself steering into the brake for no reason.
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    Post by slowflapper Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:11 am

    where did you put the master cylinder? in the place of teh old one? do you have to replace it?
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    Post by Stoopid john Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:46 pm

    I mounted the new master in the same place with the same bolts. I had to trim the sheet metal to make it fit because the new one is longer.
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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:16 pm

    looks alot better than a Dodge Caravan isnt? Cool , on the bad side you will have to listen to everybodys story each time you park the van or at the gas station Rolling Eyes , sometime ist okay but it make longer drives.....very nice van.
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    Post by Stoopid john Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:23 pm

    Haha, yeah. Thanks

    I'm very happy with the brakes, driven about 200 miles so far.
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    Post by Stoopid john Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:25 pm

    I put some new shoes on the old girl!! I found a great deal on a set of 09 Challenger rims for $80 and they are 18x7.5. I bought a set of used tires that are 215/55 for the front and 235/55 for the rear. In order to use the wheels i had to space them out 1 1/4" and the other reason is that dodge changed the bolt pattern to 5x4.52 from 5x4.5, so the spacers did both. They bolted up to the 5x4.5 hubs but i know it's different.

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    You can see the brakes now

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    Here are a few pics of some of the other stuff done

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    Just to compare with the old

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    The brakes have been outstanding, i had someone pull out a few weeks ago and hands down, they saved me and the van.
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    Post by Stoopid john Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:54 pm

    Does anyone know what the stock caster setting was? Has anyone used shims to change the caster, i've seen 2* and 4*. If so, did a 2* shim really change it 2*?

    thanks
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    Post by RodStRace Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:41 pm

    Stock should be in the manual. it's probably ~5 degrees.
    I put shims on the 108 due to the nose down attitude, made a big difference!
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    Post by Rayallen Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:13 am

    Love the new look of the motor and the wheels. Great job! Wish I was moving along that fast.
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    Post by Guest Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:00 am

    Hey,

    Welcome and great looking Van!
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    Post by Stoopid john Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:17 am

    Thanks guys,

    I put it on our alignment rack at work and it had 1.5* of caster, i found that 6* is stock spec. That explains the way it drives, kinda always never stays straight and always sawing at the wheel. The new tires made this problem worse with the stiff sidewalls plus i have staggered sizes now and it raised the rear up. I installed 4* shims in it a few hours ago and that helped a lot!! I'll get it back on the rack this week and see where i am.

    So, if you haven't checked your alignment, check it!!!! The more the springs sag, the worse this will get.

    Next up is the auto swap and install the header.

    john
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    Post by Paul Smart Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:10 pm

    hey john looking thru this post i havent seen the part numbers and stuff just pics of the parts.id like part numbers on the flexhoses,calipers,rotors,pads,even the replacemet bearings for the hub,aalso any other parts required to do the conversion.thanks in advance
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    Post by Stoopid john Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:08 pm

    Here is what Scarebird sent me, it's the list of stuff needed. I didn't mess with my hub bearings at all.

    http://www.orchidlakecandles.com/manual.pdf

    I pretty much bought everything from rockauto, the rotors are ebay but very nice so far.

    I drive it hard and everyday, best money spent, hands down.
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    Post by Stoopid john Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:49 pm

    I took some pictures the other day of the van. This is after i removed the bottom 2 leaves of the front and rear.

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    And just to see the difference

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    I also got the 904 tranny in it. Here is the picture of the shifter installed.

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    Along with the trans swap i installed a 6 into one header and 2 1/2 exhaust on it. I made the exhaust end before the rear tires just in case i flip the rear axle. The header really woke up the slant 6 in a big way. I guess the 10-1 and big cam needed to breath. Another change for the better was to swap the holley 390cfm for a edelbrock 500cfm. I'm getting better mpg and just an all around better drive.
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    Post by Stoopid john Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:34 pm

    Here are a few pictures of the engine with the header, elec fan and small starter. It doesn't sound like a can of rocks when it starts.

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    The next group of pictures is of the 904 swap. I used a tranny cross member and mount from a '98 full size dodge van. The only thing i did to the mount was shortened and drilled a new hole in the bracket that bolts to the tail shaft. It fit well stock but hung to low.

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    I shortened and drilled a new hole in the stock dart shift lever don't laugh at my screw it's lasted for months.

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    My exhaust hangs low but i can't really do much about it, with out cutting the header all up.

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    Post by Stoopid john Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:43 pm

    I bought a set of blue dot tri-bar headlights that use h4 bulbs and they looked nice, but a few days of driving i found this.

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    Both of them did that....nice!

    Tail lights

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    One more picture of the dog house, i used a door gasket/weather strip seal from a 2000 dodge caravan, works well.

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    Also installed a set of Express pick-up mirrors

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    Post by Stoopid john Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:50 pm

    This weekend i started to do body work and installing more FatMat heat/sound mat everywhere.

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    Post by westcoastvanner Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:10 pm

    Can you please photograph ( up close ) the rear seat mounting hardware. I am trying to purchase a set, but I do not know what they look like. Where did you get the neat tail light lens?


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    Post by vanman2 Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:05 pm

    van is looking good !
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    Post by Stoopid john Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:38 pm

    I drove the van 240 miles across the state today to look at a suzuki samurai. 70 mph + 30 mph cross wind at times = a long stressful drive.

    To top it all off, why do people lie about the condition of something they sell? I mean really! Because i drove 3 hours i'll over look everything! Evil or Very Mad

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