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Rear Disk Brakes

donivan65: Governor; Number of posts : 12220
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Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:04 pm

I ran across this 85 Cadillac rear disk brake system at Pick a Part, so I bought it to see what RipVanArkie was into. But the thing is, its just metal so it could probably fit anything. So I will mess around with it for a while to figure it out. I really like that lever on the calipers that is hooked to a parking brake cable which pushes the piston out to energize the caliper. So, Rip whats next,,,,,where did you clock the bracket since the holes in the bracket don't line up to the holes in the rear end. And what about a rotor,,,,,I think that Cadillac could be the same as an S10. ,,,,,,(I don't want to have to think this all out myself),,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by G-Man Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:31 pm

This is a very interesting thread. I also would like to have rear disc's. Hope this is infor we can pass along to all first gen owners

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:34 pm

I would think this would fit any van or truck,,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by savage Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:51 pm

I think Rip post all the info on this, on the old web site??/

RipVanArkie

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by RipVanArkie Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:22 pm

I rotated the brackets about 35* and marked my holes. I used the Cadillac rotors as well, I just milled the wheel flange down 1/8" so it would slip inside the hat. You will need a 1/8" spacer behind the rotor so everything lines up. You will need to shorten the E-brake cables.

Here's the thread:
http://vintagevans.forumup.jobs/viewtopic.php?t=5028&highlight=rear&mforum=vintagevans

BTW: I haven't had to add an ounce of fluid to my brakes since the install! One half inch of pedal begins to engage the brakes, they stop straight and are not over-responsive. I could not be happier with the brakes.

Good Luck with it Don!

Later,
Rip

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:43 pm

Thanks Rip, I just want figure out the system and lay it out.
So 1st step, tilt the brackets up in back and drill new holes,,,,,,
Now these calipers,,,,,,BIG MONEY,,,,,I paid $10 for the left rear one with a $2 core charge,,,,,,,,seems to me, changing out the 2 o rings in the used one would be a better deal,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by Guest Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:11 am

Rockauto.com has the rear calipers (A1 Cardone) for $83.79 including the core charge. I have a discount code as well. The only thing is, they don't offer free shipping.

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by savage Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:09 am

Guess you need to find another used Eldorado caliper. Sounds like a trip to the JY(or pick a part) Cool

Cool

Is it raining there??

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:32 am

I did get some rain over the last couple of days,,,,,,so that probably means it turns to snow as it travels east. I should go back and grab that right rear caliper since it is just laying under the Caddy right now. But the car could be gone by now,,,,,,,One good thing is that Cadillac is built pretty good, you have a good chance of finding their parts still good. But you got to admit, by putting stuff up on this website, you get to see and find out a lot of things. And there is always someone who will take it one step further. And I like to see that !

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:38 am

This is getting good and Don / Rip when you get it all figured out would it be possible to put together a "Step-by-Step" on how to do it? This could very well be a fix all for all G10 owner's.
I'm heading to the JY tomorrow to check out a few caddy's they have there.

Is it all caddy's or just the 1985 Eldorado's that fit?

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:51 am

The fancy cars use them,,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:54 am

PS.......... Rip also slapped PB on this,,,,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:51 am

[quote="donivan65"]The fancy cars use them,,,,,,,

Thanks Don, This gives me a few more to search for at the JY. Will these work without PB?

Also, do you know of and any other vehicle springs that fit a 1st Gen?

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:14 pm

The system will work without Power,,,,,,he just got carried away,,,,,,
The important part on springs is the center bolt which determines the wheelbase on a vehicle,,,,,,,thats what indexes the axles. And it is not in the center of the springs,,,,,,,the sides that go toward the bumpers are like 4" longer than the sides that point towards the transmission. So bring your measuring tape with
you ,,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:27 pm

Will do.

Thank you.

*** Had a last minute showing on the house today. So, will head over to the JY tomorrow (Sat). Man I hope this house sells soon!!!

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1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

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RipVanArkie

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by RipVanArkie Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:40 pm

I have a complete setup here and a 72 Nova rear with the wheel flanges already milled.

Just so you know, the front rotors are the same as the rear on those Cadillacs.

Carried away!? I guess so, but I sure like the way it stops! My knees are bad and that was the main reason for the power brakes.

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Later,
Rip

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:13 pm

Good info Steve. Thanks. Thinking I will go this route. cheers

cheers

How far are you from Mena. Ar.? Mom just bought land there.

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1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:32 pm

Alright Savage, here goes my rain heading east,,,,,,have fun with it,,,,,, AND,,,,,,you made me feel like I was throwing away a $170 caliper by leaving it under that Cadillac, so I had to just go back there and pay full list price, ($19.99) for it,,,,,,,,,

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by RipVanArkie Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:47 pm

Dan, I'm about 2.5 hours East of Mena, I like the hills over there.

Don, rain should be here Friday night, until then it will just be cold. I miss the smell of a good California rain... been a long time.

G'night,
Rip

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by donivan65 Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:07 am

Putting front disk brakes on a 1964 Chevy Van is one thing, but putting 4 wheel power disk brakes on it, now thats getting carried away to a whole new one of a kind, level............

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by BvrWally Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:04 am

BUT.......I like it! Smile

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by Guest Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:36 am

Rip..

Do you have any pics of your power brake setup on the forums?

I wonder if it could be adapted to work on an A-100.

DanTheVanMan

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by DanTheVanMan Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:37 pm

Heading out to "Pull-a-part" tomorrow. Looking for the rear disc brake assy's.

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There's enough here to keep me busy for awhile.......... And there is a few Olds & Buicks too.

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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

Rear Disk Brakes Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by RipVanArkie Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:03 pm

Dan, last time I visited our Pik a Part there were 12 Caddys with all the components in place.

Later,
Rip

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Re: Rear Disk Brakes

Post by RipVanArkie Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:09 pm

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Funny you should ask, the bracketry is adapted from a 76 Dodge van!

Later,
Rip

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