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    Convering to automatic??

    rustytoolss
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    Post by rustytoolss Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:57 pm

    Just wondering if anyone has converted the stick to automatic ? And how much trouble it might bet to use a full length 904 / with the modern drive shaft? Is it possible to use the dash cable shifter/ and convert it to the linkage lever at the trans ? just asking
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    Post by dix Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:49 pm

    1ST is it a100 or 108  on the a100 there is not a lot of room for the long tail shaft . but yes it has been done the the auto tranny mount from a 70 /b van line it up with the cross  member on the frame . drill out the frame and weld in a stiffener pipe in the frame so it doesn't crush, you will have to add a tranny cooler or a new rad, the shift cable is aval, but not cheap. my 1st attempt I thied cheap spent $50.00 on a shift cable, and now that just hangs in my garage. then spent about $200.00 and bought the one i should have bought in the 1st place, now it works perfect. but there is some adjustusting and playing around to get it right...
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    Post by rustytoolss Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:39 pm

    sounds like life will be better/cheaper if I find an automatic van to start with.
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    Post by dix Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:31 pm



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    Post by Stoopid john Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:27 pm

    I bought the shifter and cable from ebay. I found the cross member in the junk yard, i used one from a 98 full size dodge van. I used 1/2 pipe through the frame, when installing the through bolts for the cross member. That way the bolts got tight on the pipe and not crush the thin frame/body rail. Used the drive shaft out of a 72 duster along with the tranny.

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    My cooler now has a fan and scoop on it. Mine is also a 108.
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    Post by rustytoolss Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:51 pm

    Stoopid john wrote:I bought the shifter and cable from ebay. I found the cross member in the junk yard, i used one from a 98 full size dodge van. I used 1/2 pipe through the frame, when installing the through bolts for the cross member. That way the bolts got tight on the pipe and not crush the thin frame/body rail. Used the drive shaft out of a 72 duster along with the tranny.

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    My cooler now has a fan and scoop on it. Mine is also a 108.
    About how long is your driveshaft ? and with the 90" WB do you think it safe& do able?
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    Post by Stoopid john Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:10 pm

    From tail shaft seal to center of the yoke is about 35.5". I've never been under a 90" so i don't know.
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    Post by dix Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:40 am

    the a100 would be 18 " shorter


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    Post by Stoopid john Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:40 am

    It's hard to say, with it on the ground it should be fine. I'd like to see the angle of things when the suspension is extended with the rear down. I've seen lifted jeeps driving around that have nasty drive line angles and seem to be okay.
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    Post by rustytoolss Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:13 am

    Stoopid john wrote:It's hard to say, with it on the ground it should be fine. I'd like to see the angle of things when the suspension is extended with the rear down. I've seen lifted jeeps driving around that have nasty drive line angles and seem to be okay.
    Does not sound like a good plan to me with a A100 . Maybe only an 18" driveshaft. Thanks for the info.
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    Post by dix Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:30 pm

    the drive shaft length  should not make any differance the angle would, A steep angle will eat up your u-joints
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    Post by dodge man Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:26 pm

    your exhaust is really hanging low what headers are you useing ?
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    Post by Stoopid john Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:59 pm

    They are from a 72 duster, they do hang low but the van is high. The engine runs soo much better with it on that i over look, how it looks. The engine is 10.5:1 with a large cam and 4 barrel, it needed to breath. It didn't fit with the clutch linkage.
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    Post by dodge man Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:03 pm

    it should really get up and go, have you takin it to the track,
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    Post by dix Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:42 pm

    on my a100 center of u-joint to center of u-joint is 18", yes i did convert to both u-joints


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    Post by dix Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:50 pm

    the conversion can add up, tranny $100. to $200.convertor $100. shifter $50. to $100 cable $100. to $200. tranny cooler $30. to $50. or a rad $250.and lets say $30. to $50. for misc. (kickdown linkage, dipstick & tube. and so on.)


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    Post by rustytoolss Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:41 pm

    dix wrote:on my a100 center of u-joint to center of u-joint is 18", yes i did convert to both u-joints
    Was that 18" length with the short automatic? or the full length (car) automatic ?
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    Post by dix Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:36 am

    stock /shorter trans


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    Post by Stoopid john Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:39 pm

    dix wrote:the conversion can add up, tranny $100. to $200.convertor $100.  shifter $50. to $100 cable $100. to $200. tranny cooler $30. to $50. or a rad $250.and lets say $30. to $50. for misc. (kickdown linkage, dipstick & tube. and so on.)

    Shifting into drive and just stepping on the gas...... priceless

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