We need to find a base price on earlies

OK I guess we will go on personal opinion From the looks and hard to tell from pictures if it is nice as it looks I would say $18,500 would be the most I would pay..But someone else may pay more depending how bad they want it I took a 6k loss selling my 62 Bel Air to buy my Early because Dan gave me 2 months to come up with the money or he would put it on line for sale I would have gave him 20k if I had it because of the original Rust Free Body and the V8 conversion.!!!.    I had to have it I was Obsessed...

Thanks Didz , that works  also missing is the rear bumper, and driver & passenger door mirrors, also no back up lights  but we can still find out what our members think they are worth  I would rather not put a members van / pick up in the photo's . i'd rather not piss off someone  on here who put their heart and soul in to their truck ...

that's what I did got Obsessed with mine, and now with everything like new, I wouldn't sell it less then 18k but I know I would never get more than 12k for it so its my baby for life now!!
its just what someone would pay for something, if anyone asks me about a van i'll give my best judgement call as to what I would pay or not pay,

dix wrote:Thanks Didz , that works  also missing is the rear bumper, and driver & passenger door mirrors, also no back up lights  but we can still find out what our members think they are worth  I would rather not put a members van / pick up in the photo's . i'd rather not piss off someone  on here who put their heart and soul in to their truck ...

                GOOD idea on Not posting members Van's or PU'S to determan value but the bumper and mirrors were left off purposely for a Smooth Custom look...... I personally like to see whats behind me and if someone is going to run into me I sure would like to have a rear bumper there...  ...If I was to post mine Today I would be Real Lucky to get 12-14k..... But by the time I Finish the interior and add Vintage Air I will have twice that invested in it not counting labor.!!!.......

What the market is willing to pay doesn't work, just because some bozo has a pocket full of money does not mean a superbowl ticket is worth $5,000. does it, That also goes for a 1970 plymouth hemi cuda convertable  going for 1.5 million , the market is not common place of values. My opinion the truck is worth  about 20 k to 21.5 k.  And I hope he gets $ 25,000.

Joe  I  agree with you but in PA it will not pass a pa inspection with out the bumper and mirrors and the reverse lights  but I don't think it take away from the price,  but painting a $10. dollar penstar does, so does the lose wire running up the dash next to the shifter, it makes me think what else did he think that's good enough on , again it's only my 2 cents,

No inspection here Dix but I did not consider that.... I say the only way we are going to determan the values as a Group is for US to tell the other Members what we have invested in Our Early's rather it be too much or too little and determine a value from there..... Rather it be already restored or it needs restoring... considering the cost of a full restoration now a day's....I will be First...$28,500 in Mine 1966 Gmc Handi Van.. Everything New V8 motor,trans,rear end,brakes,tires,rims,paint-job,rubber-seals,stereo system,emblems,windshield,spring bushings,shocks,sway bar's,lenses,modern gauges,radiator,all rubber hoses,...We will Never determan a value if no one wants to tell how much they have invested in there Early.....We are there only market to most its just a old work truck or van.!!!..

I kept all my bills but never added them up, So i really dont know. anyways i thought we were doing good.  at this point we are saying the pickup is worth about $18 k  I was hoping to post something up between 10 k and 15 k and then drop to 5 k to 10 k that way some one would know what we would expect, altho the campers and a choped van will be the real challange, , There is a nice dodge camper on e-bay now, of course it needs a bit of attenion inside but still nice,

I am at $10,500 at this point. But I got some really good deals on parts and did most of the work myself.  I know It's hard to put a value on Earlies . But I think so far I am not in this truck to big, money wise. The body has NO rust at all, original paint and many brand new parts through out. I would not take less then $15 for it, but what I think it is cool someone else may not want a truck that gets 8 mpg. So I guess it's a hard call

Again, it boils down to what the buyer is looking for and what they are willing to spend to get it. I bought a 64 pup that had been in a garage for 15 years. It had a 200 I6 insead of the original 170, other than that it was stock. Small rust holes in the cab floor and one hole in the bed. For $2k, I think I got a great deal. Personally, I wanted a fixer-upper so I could make it my own. Anybody can buy a show car, but mine is a one of a kind. To this point, I have added seats, a 302-v8 with msd ign.,cam, headers,five on the floor,headliner,air bags all the way around lifting it 9 inches, with 31x10.5x15 tires, rack-n-pinion steering, disc brakes on front, and L.E.D. tail lights. Most of the custom fabricating done by myself. I have somewhere around $2-2.5k in parts and materials, and wouldn't take any less than $10k for it. I still need to finish the interior and paint it.

Barrett Jackson has brainwashed too many people. $20,000 is a nice thought so remember that when someone wants 6k for a parts/project van. 

Nailing down a cost just isn't possible but I could ballpark it. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay. For instance, I paid $1200 for my van and it is a super clean, running example with no rust and has rare aftermarket engine mods. A similar van not even 30 miles from where I found mine the guy is asking $6500 for a bone stocker. thats all before any restoration. My estimates are based on what i have seen over my career and I have performed many professional restorations there is so many directions one could take. After I finish mine I would think a 20K offer on it would be a slap in the face for what I have done. I plan on doing all modern drivetrain, all custom air ride, custom interior, and other labor intensive work to my van. Prob 300 hours worth then I could easily spend 15 to 20K just to paint it. If anyone has painted their van recently paint cost is ridiculous just for materials! Of coarse that is an award winning paint job but thats what I want. So if my van gets magazine attention and wins many awards like church's Vangoh, what would the price be then? I would think it would gladly fetch 45-55K across an auction to the right buyer and that is a low IMO. Sounds crazy but I have seen way less desirable restomods go for way more, and I think our vans are on the rise big time. A factory restoration would probably fetch 20-30K all day long if it was a nut and bolt restoration and done properly and professionally but then again so could a van that someone has 50K just in cost. I personally think 25K for a nut and bolt restored car is a deal and probably a good target to start because that is what most people would probably pay. As mods increase like air ride , custom body mods etc. the value goes up.

Wheelie wrote:A factory restoration would probably fetch 20-30K all day long if it was a nut and bolt restoration and done properly and professionally but then again so could a van that someone has 50K just in cost. I personally think 25K for a nut and bolt restored car is a deal and probably a good target to start because that is what most people would probably pay.

Agree 100%, with drivetrain costing $5-6K then add in suspension and brakes not to mention a new modern wire harness a very well done early is easily in the $20-30k range. Notice I haven't even mentioned rearend or paint and interior. JM2C   

Sadly those prices are hard to get for any of our Vans. I also agree we put just as much time and upgrades any other Hot Rod would have

if I added up all the time I put in mine and tried to sell it for all I have in it I would need 50k. I enjoy working on this old girls and all the hot rods I've had over the years, I really think to buy one of these things you should be mechanicly inclined or if not buy one that's completely done, if not you better have lots of money.!!

Totally agree dodge man, if someone has never done a full restoration its hard for them to realize the dedication and amount of time (and money) it takes to do it right. It's definitely better to buy it restored already for some and work from there if on a budget but want to have something to cruise in safely. For me, I love what I do. I definitely could make more money doing something else. Its the pure love of bringing these old rides back and see it last another few generations. The saying goes, You know how to get 50K from your ride is put 100K in it!

Now I feel we are getting some where, So from what i'm reading it sounds like you guys would agree the very nicely done econo on Barrett Jackson would be worth the $25k that it sold for.

So here is a nother good example of a recent sale that the owner decided not to address the drivetrain and not show any photo's of the underside, (Is this truck worth $14,K) I do think so ,  even with some thing undone or over looked,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-DODGE-A100-TRUCK-RARE-318-V8-727-AUTO-CALIFORNIA-TRUCK-RUNS-GREAT-/221364608873?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESINDXX%3AIT&nma=true&si=ML%252BJ4lh1Q15A2aclVrOPTxe5Jv0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

It may be,BUT look at all the turds that dreamers think are worth 6-8 grand!?!? I could post them all day! Theres one by me that isnt even a good parts car and he wants $2000 for it! Remember the musclecar bubble in the early 90s? The market is still hung over from that.

I would say YES.....There is that much in it from what we can see..body,paint,tires/rims,Great interior,..YEA Someone Got A Great Deal......And I agree on the 25k thing I just did not want to be the First One to said it...Add 5k on my van for Labor and considering I got all my parts at wholesale cost...

Jimthefred we don't care about a asking price they can ask and post all day, we are trying to show a base line of what a new member can look at and understand what to expect for $20 K and above then something around $15 K and then around $10K , and so on, But i'm using all recent sold values ,Not a asking price

That truck scares me, fresh paint but driver quality? Makes me wonder what body filler rusty mess is underneath. Also no underside shots of the chassis. Thats one of those I would carefully crawl around and inspect before making an offer. Im thinking 10-12K on that. Reason being that they didn't freshen up the motor. They did the easiest visible restoration for a quick flip most likely which was paint and interior. Still prob another 5K -10K for a super clean fully restored ride.

I understand where you are coming from wheelie And i 'm thinking anyone spending that kind of money did look underneath it or did pay someone a few hundred and send photo's and a report back to them. To me that would only be the most reasonable cheap insurance that every one should do if they can't look for them selves.

THAT TRUCK WOULD ONLY GET A ''C'' GRADE FROME ME AND I WOULD NOT PAY ANYMORE THAN 15K ONLY BECOUSE THE MOTORS NOT BEEN REFRESHED AND NO PICTURES OF THE UNDER CARAGE, NEW ENGINE AND PLENTY OF PICTURES OF A NICE UNDERCARAGE IT WOULD BE WORTH 25K AND GET AN ''A'' FROM ME, JUST MY OPENION,

jimthefred wrote:It may be,BUT look at all the turds that dreamers think are worth 6-8 grand!?!? I could post them all day! Theres one by me that isnt even a good parts car and he wants $2000 for it! Remember the musclecar bubble in the early 90s? The market is still hung over from that.

For Example: https://vintage-vans.forumotion.com/t38924-65-spring-special

GOOD Example 2k for the Econo PU + 20k to restore it.!!! I say $500.00..buck's