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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:26 am

    Stock 65 speedo cable to 700R4 tranny. What do i need to hook them up? Someone must have done this before me, I'm just looking for what part to buy.

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    Post by jrinaman Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:07 am

    nothing. it attaches the same. i would pull the speedo drive out to check gears, they are color coded so no need to count. once you drive it and verify actual speed, just order gear to correct speedo.
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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:54 am

    This transmission was put in by the previous owner, not me. He told me it was a 700r4. Here's what i'm looking at.

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    It looks like an electrical connection to me. Is this really a 4L60 trans?
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:00 am

    That is a newer transmission with an electronic speedometer,,,,,that stuff comes out and you put gears in there for the cable,,,,,,now that transmission might still be wired to be run by a computer,,,,,
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    Post by jrinaman Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:24 am

    http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm the gears and housing are available here. you might have the gear in there, if not, you need to pull of tail housing to install. click on 700r4 and they have a good pic of what you have/or need. with the housings being $72.00, you might want to get housing and gear from junkyard and replace with new gear later. if you need inside gear, dont forget the spring clip.
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    Post by HandiVanMan Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:03 pm

    I think that the plug in is for the over drive.
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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:27 pm

    Unless there is 5 gears??, my van shift through 4.
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    Post by HandiVanMan Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:29 pm

    Yes the 4th gear is overdrive.
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    Post by jrinaman Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:36 pm

    there is a plug/wires somewhere for torque converter lock up. i dont know about the electric speedos but on the cable driven, it goes right where your arrow is. check link i listed above. a cutaway veiw is near the top off page.
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    Post by HandiVanMan Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:37 pm

    I have a transmission just like it that I took out of a 90's model silverado. I think that you can buy the parts to use your speedo & cable from summit racing atleast that's what one of my buddies told me. I had the plug that plugged into the plugin but I gave it away to a buddy that was building a hot rod coupe. If I would of knew that I would of wound up with the trans back I would of kept it though.
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    Post by HandiVanMan Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:40 pm

    I would say that it is still wired to run buy a computer like Don suggested to.
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    Post by Digz Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:01 pm

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    Look up Bowtie Overdrives. Tell them what ya got and they can set ya up with the correct parts. You'll need to know your RA gear ratio and tire size to get the best fit for the speedo gears. Possibly have a number off your tranny also. It should be fairly easy to do , just a bit messy sometimes.
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:22 pm

    You got a digital speedo gear,,,,you need an analog,,,,,


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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:36 pm

    So do you think its not working correctly? There is no electrical what so ever going to it. It shifts fine, although i feel at too low of speeds (first into second is at like 15mph). And if I have the digital gear does that make it a 4L60?
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    Post by jrinaman Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:55 pm

    no, digital speedometer. take it out, 1 bolt and put in cable speedo. it will take more time getting the parts than it will to put in.
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:24 pm

    That 4 terminal connector is for the power to turn on the overdrive,,,,,and there is a code above the right rear corner of the pan like XYM1432, that tells you what the transmission is,,,,,,and are you saying you drove that van 900 miles home without the overdrive hooked up with a 4:11 rear end ?


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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:28 pm

    Yep. But like i said, it shifts through 4 gears. I listen/feel for it almost every time i drive it.
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    Post by HandiVanMan Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:44 pm

    Overdrive should be the first gear it takes after neutral & drive will be the next gear. Overdrive will be 4 gears & drive will be 3 gears. If you drive it around town in overdrive it will mess up the overdrive eventually. Atleast that's what my local transmission shop told me.
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:52 pm

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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:02 pm

    Mine says "0CCM142B"
    Found this post elsewhere on the web.

    "I've got another ident question, here's the tranny number
    8 yn m 13 h

    I found out the
    8 is 1998
    YN is model....but what model is my question????
    M is 700r4
    13 is the day
    H is the shift (2nd)"

    So, mine would be (0)1990, (CC)model??, (M)700r4, (142) 142 day of the year, (B) which ever shift.


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    Post by donivan65 Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:03 pm

    The wiring is for locking up the torque convertor,,,,
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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:22 pm

    donivan65 wrote:The wiring is for "locking up the torque convertor",,,,

    I dont understand what that means.
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    Post by Space Truckin Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:29 pm

    Do u have a tach in there , just curious what rpm's you are running when in 4th/overdrive .
    Also what engine ?
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    Post by NipRing Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:33 pm

    Actually i just picked up a tach today to start fooling around with tuning the carb. And at the moment its a 230 with the 4.11 rear.
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    Post by m1dadio Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:17 pm

    We just went over this whole subject on VCVC

    http://www.vcvc.org/showthread.php?19304-700r4-swap-collecting-parts

    Your trans is not a 4L60, It is a 700R4 which is a four speed with a lock up torque converter. It can be run without the TCC opperating but you are loosing the highest fuel economy benafit without it.

    If your trans upshifts too fast it more likely the way you have the TV cable rigged at the carb. Or it could be that the TCC is trying to be locked all the time but this is very unlikely if its not electricaly connected.

    Being a 1990 trans the TCC used to be turned off and on by a computer but its not all that complicated as it sounds because the computer was just a glorified on/off switch.

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