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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Post by Scott Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:23 am

    What's the Council of Councils all about?

    Just van enthusiast getting together, or is it a group movement to collectively change local laws?

    What's the meetings and seminars about? Is there a website that explains it all?

    And why is it that I see postings from council members now and then that single someone out as a 'Van Owner', not a 'Vanner'? Why does it seem like a putdown to be a 'Van Owner'?

    Is there an official set of guidelines that determine who is a Vanner or Van Owner?
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    Post by BvrWally Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:58 am

    Here's a link to the "Short History" of the Council:
    http://www.councilofcouncils.com/ THEN click on "Vannin links to get to the info!


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    Post by G-Man Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:10 am

    The C of C is a meeting for the most part. They decide where the Nat's will be next. The meetings I think for the most part about judging the van classes. Being named as a Council reconciles a group or a club. Don't have to be a Council member to go to events
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    Post by BvrWally Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:16 am

    It also helps bringing members of the Van Movement closer together! Regions away and gathering for friendship and stories etc. People can actually fly in and the hosts pick them up at the airport and shuttle them where they need to be! Jewels & I have been to a few and they are with out-a-doubt a great gathering! The last few years, since we had to work, Astro, (From Vannin.com) has had a live feed from the meetings...and one can partake at the open meeting on Saturday's forum! Great for us working folks, who sometimes cannot attend.
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    Post by austinmodhouse Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:39 am

    Scott, I’ve had the some questions. I figured out it has to do with van “clubs”. I’m guessing these clubs and gatherings used to have more members… back in the days before internet. leaders from various van”clubs” get together to plan the year at the council of councils. I think your local club would be The Texas Van Federation. looks like they have an event in Conroe tomorrow. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Texas-Van-Federation/69894942848
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    Post by BajaCharlie Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:30 am

    So the dreaded "VANNER" as opposed to "VAN OWNER" debate again!OH NO!I notice noone touched that part of his question so heres my take(some people will disagree).A van owner is a person who 1 has a van but only uses it for work.2Has a van that they are restoring to original spec or even hotrodding but will never sleep in it or take it to a vanrun to hang with vanners for fun as opposed to a show to get trophies.Essentially u could switch their van for just about any hotrod and they would prolly be fine as long as it was their brand..ie.Chevy guys would trade for a 55 Bel Air in a heartbeat..ha heartbeat..and that too would sit in the garage except on Sunday mornigs for shows/parades as long as its not raining.Typically these vans would never see a heart shaped porthole or shag carpet.Now that kinda sounds deragatory but what you will find if you get out to a VAN event said person will be welcomed with open arms offered food & drink and receive many compliments on their van.Even if its your work van and you took the time to put some wheels on it and would hassle cleanin it out to camp in.Pretty much only on the internet by posers will you get greif for bein a van owner the people who would do that are mostly all talk and you rarely find them out at van events.On the other hand a "VANNER" is a person whos in it for the love of vans and the community that entails,which is very diffrent than the regular "hotrod" community that will often shun your van even if your a hotrodder who owns a van.A perfect example of this is "the hamb" on there you post something even slightly unrelated and they call you names and tell ya to f off.If ya do that here they actually still help you out and then give you 3 websites that are even more helpful.Just FYI most van sites seem to be made up of equalish parts van owners and vanners(cept maybe vannin.com).A"VANNER" will also be surprisingly more loyal to vans than any certain brand name.You can spot a vanner because they'll be googly eyed over any awsome van even if its not their brand of van.Dont get me wrong though you will get ribbed by someone no matter what kinda van you drive but that same guy will offer you a beer in the same sentence as opposed to turn their nose up and not even be willing to check out your van if its not a Chevorge.VANNERS are the guys who own more than 1 van and the are not using the second one to chop up for the first one and often times they own several and often even the same vanner will own a Chevy,Ford and a Dodge as long as its a VAN.Vanners are the ones who you'll see drivin it down a dirt road to get to a run eating in it and cuttin up straight original vans to build radicals but almost never takin um apart to part out or scrap,it'll end up back on the road at some point.The vanner crowd is also the ones who welcome you in even when your vans not nice they are the ones who see your vision in that crappy primer bucket and wanna help,not tell ya to come back when its shiney.Thats actually a common misunderstanding by regular people that they need a nice van to hang out when actually vanners are the best source for helpin you get your van goin or even welcoming a person with no van and helping them find the right thing for them.Often times being called a van owner..which we arent to politically correct about..is more of sign that we wish that person would get more involved and disappointment that we dont get to enjoy their van out at stuff,than it is a real hack at a person.I think one of the simplest ways to put it is summed up by one of the old clubs names"W.H.A.A.T." which stands fo "WE'RE HERE AT ALL TIMES".Vanners are the guys and GALS who eat,sleep,bone in and breathe VANS!!There the people who know that VAN is a verb not a noun.I could go on even more about how cool bein a vanner is and how cool these people are but you will only ever really grasp it when you get out there experience the comrodarie(I dont know how to spell that)HELL you dont even need to bring your van(although u will get ribbed if ya dont when we know u coulda)JUST GET OUT THERE AND VAN!!
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    Post by BvrWally Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:54 am

    BC....I really don't think I have ever heard a better description of our sport!
    Great job!!!!! Very well put!!!!! Smile
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    Post by G-Man Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:27 am

    Vanners or Van owner??? Don't think vanning can afford to split hairs like this. Yes many have never been to event. But working a full time job to make ends meet, not alot of vacation time. Events so far away they can not make them. These other vanners help vanning alot just by driving there vans around in there areas. It sparks interest to owning a van and I'm sure many make events that never have been before. Last year @ the Nat's there were many newbies there and that just the early owners
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:45 am

    Categorically speaking, I find myself yet again in a "gray area", and I'm cood with that.


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    Post by G-Man Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:07 am

    campin fool to me your in the Black
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:28 am

    G-Man, I wish you were my banker.
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    Post by austinmodhouse Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:31 am

    I have yet to sleep in my van (s). but I do dream of the occasion when I get to.
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    Post by BajaCharlie Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:30 pm

    If you dream about vans that makes you a vanner in my book HAHA
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    Post by Big W Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:09 pm

    WOO HOO I'm a vanner....I had this great dream the other night...my wife and I were in the van and.....well I'm a vanner that's all that matters cheers cheers affraid
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    Post by BajaCharlie Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:24 pm

    but a real vanner would tell us the rest of the dream and probablly reenact it and take pics......
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    Post by Big W Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:36 pm

    lmao...well as my wife tells me "I have a photographic memory unfortunately I am all out of film". Very Happy
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    Post by jrinaman Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:55 pm

    i have already been told i am not a real vanner. i decided to keep the van anyway. and if i was a real vanner, i would have to leave this site because i couldnt associate with van inthusiasts and van owners. real vanners hang out on a different site where they discuss what stereo fits in their minivan or what wax to use. and never ever mention cartoon characters.
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    Post by BajaCharlie Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:23 am

    Please reread the section of my earlier post refering to posers.Also check the section about how you would be welcomed at an event by real vanners.Not to pick on any certain poser.
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    Post by jrinaman Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:16 am

    ya, the few evants i went to, i was treated like family, just as i was here from day 1. only ever got crap from 1 person and he left, blaming it on people like me. dont really care if i am a vanner or a wannabe, were all here because we love our old vans.
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    Post by G-Man Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:45 am

    Not to change the subject, but did anyone find out where the 41 Nat's will be????
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    Post by Twinpilot001 Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:55 am

    Makes us all Happy were here doesnt it?
    Just a bunch of really COOL guys with same intrests. Im so happy that i dont have to buy a minivan & new stereo, even a different can of WAX!! when & where is the 41st, nats @=?? Im LOVIN IT!!
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    Post by jrinaman Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:06 pm

    good move chris! was going nowhere good. the 41st nats? dont go on my word but heard something about new england states {anything north of n.y.) it could be b.s. and will post if i hear/read anything different.
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    Post by billo Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:45 pm

    G-Man wrote:Not to change the subject, but did anyone find out where the 41 Nat's will be????

    The 41st Nationals will be held at The Guernsey County Fairgrounds in Old Washington Ohio. The 10,11,12,13 and 14 July, 2013.
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    Post by G-Man Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:20 pm

    Wow!!! It was just there, Cool !!! Thanks billo
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    Post by EconoUSAparts Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:20 pm

    billo wrote:
    G-Man wrote:Not to change the subject, but did anyone find out where the 41 Nat's will be????

    The 41st Nationals will be held at The Guernsey County Fairgrounds in Old Washington Ohio. The 10,11,12,13 and 14 July, 2013.

    Wow I'm surprised to see it return there so soon but I do like local:-)

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