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BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


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    Post by Eagle1 Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:02 am

    Well guys I get to get the new create motor I wanted but I was going to what till this winter. Yesterday morning started her up and went in the house to get something I forgot and by the time I returned she was a blaze. Have no idea what happen, but what are you going to do, FIX IT!
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    Post by m1dadio Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:47 am

    Holy crap man!
    Sorry to see this.
    Glad there was no injuries and you didn't loose the van complete.

    If there is any way I can help out let me know, parts or whatever.

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    Post by Scott Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:15 am

    Really sorry to hear it, hope you didn't get burned while putting it out.

    I know your bummed, but it could have been a lot worse.

    Guess I better get that Extinguisher for my van.
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    Post by Eagle1 Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:12 am

    I did not get burnt and the exteror is fine just have to find motor, seats and repaint dog house, o ya rewire. I think the carb went crazy an eldabrock, next one will be a 2 barrell
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    Post by G-Man Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:55 am

    Very sorry to see that eagle, glad you got back in time
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    Post by jrinaman Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:28 pm

    glad you got back before the van was junk. the motor should be salvagable with some work but if i wanted to replace it, that would be a good enough reason. i might have a carb and distributor if you decide to fix what you got.
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    Post by Twinpilot001 Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:40 pm

    chaec for fuel leaking- floats=?? or fuel line loose? usually fire comes from distributor catching fuel -on fire. Careful when you use the same carb on thhe new engine-check fuel pump for leakage-i just discovered my fuel pump was leaking (spurting) fuel out of the weep hole.
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    Post by Eagle1 Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:42 pm

    Going to save my money and put a long block in her, might even upgrade the trans to.
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    Post by Bear Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:06 pm

    man that sucks sorry to hear your bad luck, i my self am haveing a off year
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    Post by Eagle1 Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:36 am

    At least the outside still looks great!
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    Post by wylee Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:45 am

    glad things are going to be ok for the most part, hang inthere.................
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    Post by kiwimopar Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:11 am

    Good to see the damage is only the engine and seats. That could have been a lot worse.
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    Post by Vanadian Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:32 pm

    When I bought my first early I thought about that hazard. affraid Has this ever happened to anyone else?

    How did you put it out?
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    Post by DanTheVanMan Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:26 am

    Major Bummer Eagle1. Sorry to hear it. I've only had a few carb fires and always worried about a major fire so I've made sure all the fuel fittings were tight, the carb was not leaking anywhere and "Always" keep the air cleaner on tight in case of a backfire....... And a Fire Ext. close by.....

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    Post by Eagle1 Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:12 am

    The day before I went through and tighten all clamps , they were the ones that you can hand tighten
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    They kept loosening up DON"T USE THEM!!!!!!
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    Post by Twinpilot001 Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:28 am

    A Bad deal= be sure to find the exact cause of the fire- before installing any parts from the old motor!! I m guessing as to where the fire was located -rear of engine area -u will find a cracked/ loose fuel line spurting fuel toward distributor. That or carb floats / need & seat - -some trash??Best next time to run a metal fuel line to carb from fuel pump.
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    Post by Eagle1 Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:44 pm

    Thinking about a V6 turn key create motor and have to get rid of that 2 speed powergluide. What Trans do you guys suggest? Are there after market crossmembers to fit 2nd gen? and will have to change drive shaft.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:43 pm

    I put a 4.3L V6 with a 700R4 behind it into my second gen and didnt need to change the driveshaft. My transmission mounts in the same spot as the TH350 with a hanger that was fabricated for me.
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    Post by Eagle1 Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:55 am

    Thanks for the help JC
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    Post by ChevyVanMan1 Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:33 am

    Really sorry to hear about your fire. I'm an old air cooled VW motorhead so fires are more common there. Usually, it's because somebody replaced German fuel line (self tightening like chinese thumb cuffs) with cheap Chinese rubber. Also, the ethanol in fuel really rots hoses fast--even the alcohol resistant ones. Hence, I try to use German hose where I can and if not the HD stuff they use on boats. Thanks for the heads up on the hand tightening clamps. Didn't know they loosened on their own.

    Good luck with the rebuild. Take care and thanks for posting your horror, Mark
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    Post by Eagle1 Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:21 am

    Mark I just put all new rubber gas lines on and those junk clamps. But she is getting a 350/290 GM Preformence motor long block with a 50,000 mile warrentee
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    Post by Eagle1 Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:57 am

    Progress
    I am getting everything painted, the motor should be here the 1st of Aug.
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    I decided on a GM Preformance Motor with a 50,000 mile warrentee. All I have to buy is carb, gaskets, distibutor, wires, plugs, starter, and oil & filter, I think the motor mounts are good, but if I could find the polyurathane inserts would be great. Total should be about $2600, I don't think that is bad for what I am getting.
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    Only $1995 delivered because the guy that runs the part dept in Detriot has a cabin a few miles north!
    Going to keep the PG trans untill tax time and then get a 2004R,any thoughts?
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    Post by ChevyVanMan1 Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:09 pm

    As Rev. Schuler might say: You've really made some lemonaid out of lemons there. Well done. Looks like a really good deal on the crate motor. Should go for about 250K if you use synthetic. GM has it problems but their small blocks were always well made.

    And, thanks again for the heads up on the thumb clamps. I'm sure you've saved others from using them and burning up their rides. So thanks again for posting such a cautionary tale. Of course, in the old VW days if you didn't put out one of those magnesium blocks all you could do was watch them burn like the sun. They'd even burn underwater, foam or completely covered by sand.
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:13 pm

    Glad you did not lose the whole van!
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    Post by Eagle1 Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:50 am

    Finally got the motor and ended up recoring the radiator, new carb, MSD Streetfire distriutor, spark plugs, wires, and rewired the engine compartent completlly.
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    Just have to find some seats and whating for the air cleaner that macthes the valve covers ups, and she back on the road!
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