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jrinaman
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kookykrispy
sparky
Scott
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donivan65
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1st Gen Heater Core
BILLS66- Number of posts : 1383
Location : Salem Or.
Age : 64
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°26
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Joe, A heater/defroster is sure nice around here. Bill
sparky- Number of posts : 195
Location : California!
Registration date : 2010-01-05
- Post n°27
Heater Core
I went to the Advance auto parts website and typed in that part # 398237 and the picture of the heater core that popped up didnt have a "ponytail" ?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°28
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
That usually is the problem,,,,nobody has pictures of our parts, HOWEVER, thats why I asked KookyKrispy to show me the heater core,,,,and,,,,it really is the one we need,,,,this is one of our HIDDEN FINDS,,,,,but then , of course, he could of got the last one and now all they have is that Universal one,,,,,,,,
sparky- Number of posts : 195
Location : California!
Registration date : 2010-01-05
- Post n°29
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
I wonder if we could call them and ask 'em to look at it for us ?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°30
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
I would think Joe just believed the right one would come,,,,,and I doubt anyone keeps our van parts on the shelf so it would of probably of been a special order from a warehouse,,,,,and it might be hard to actually find a human to talk to there,,,,so thats why I got this post going,,, to keep us up to date on any changes that come up.....
Nightmoves- Number of posts : 2214
Location : Old Hickory Tenn.
Age : 64
Registration date : 2008-11-17
- Post n°31
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
And to add,on the phone,the order taker(sales rep)usually don't have one iota of a clue whats goin on.Just the same pic that we see as well.He's just takin an order.
jrinaman- Number of posts : 890
Location : zelienople,pa.
Age : 60
Registration date : 2011-03-10
- Post n°32
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
no, they see a part number and dont know the difference between a spark plug and a quart of oil.
kookykrispy- Number of posts : 1533
Location : Helendale, CA
Age : 50
Registration date : 2009-05-22
- Post n°33
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
sparky wrote:I went to the Advance auto parts website and typed in that part # 398237 and the picture of the heater core that popped up didnt have a "ponytail" ?
Don't worry about the photo on their website. I know it is confusing because the photo on their website is simply of a generic heater core... not the actual part! Order part #398237 for 1964-66 chevy van. That is the heater core I purchased and posted pics of. It fits 1st gen chevy van and works great. I've been driving my van all over the place now that I have heat!
Advance auto online is offering 20% off all parts up to a $50 discount using code P20 when you check out.. sale is through Dec 24th!
Lazarusvan- Number of posts : 1293
Location : Charleston, South Carolina
Age : 51
Registration date : 2011-02-22
- Post n°34
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
May seem like a basic question, but how do you know if your heater core puts out what it should? I was getting a 55 degree outdoor temp on my phone and my van was running 19o degrees on the thermo at Interstate speeds. Thermo is accurate to within 5 degrees.
It never really got warm enough. When I let the thermo hit 195 but cutting the fan to low, it seemed to make a little more difference, but nothing significant. I do have some draft coming from the door. Rear cargo area is insulated and carpeted. Not sure what is a reasonable expectation. I wondered if the engine was warm enough to make enough heat?
It never really got warm enough. When I let the thermo hit 195 but cutting the fan to low, it seemed to make a little more difference, but nothing significant. I do have some draft coming from the door. Rear cargo area is insulated and carpeted. Not sure what is a reasonable expectation. I wondered if the engine was warm enough to make enough heat?
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°35
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Mine seems to warm up fairly cozy, had it out in some 30* weather last week. It made me wonder if that old tin can I had in high school was running somewhat plugged. Might be worth trying to back flush it ? Got a buddy with a IR temp reader? If the core temp is good , it might be air restricted where it faces the opening into the grill area with stuff. Its not hard to pop the blower off to get at it to check a couple things , or blow it out with air maybe.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°36
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°37
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Yeah I agree, I have had limited short term results from backflushing heater cores as a rule.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°38
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
,,,,,and if you use any kind of stop leak,,,,,those tubes are done for,,,,,,
kookykrispy- Number of posts : 1533
Location : Helendale, CA
Age : 50
Registration date : 2009-05-22
- Post n°39
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Lazarusvan wrote:May seem like a basic question, but how do you know if your heater core puts out what it should? I was getting a 55 degree outdoor temp on my phone and my van was running 19o degrees on the thermo at Interstate speeds. Thermo is accurate to within 5 degrees.
It never really got warm enough. When I let the thermo hit 195 but cutting the fan to low, it seemed to make a little more difference, but nothing significant. I do have some draft coming from the door. Rear cargo area is insulated and carpeted. Not sure what is a reasonable expectation. I wondered if the engine was warm enough to make enough heat?
That sounds like the problem I was having. My heater core was all clogged up so it wasn't putting out any heat. It was actually heavier than the old one from all the crud that was stuck in there. After 45 years, these need to be replaced. Replace the hoses too. With the new core, my van is now warm and toasty, even on the coldest days
Lazarusvan- Number of posts : 1293
Location : Charleston, South Carolina
Age : 51
Registration date : 2011-02-22
- Post n°40
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Thanks, guys. No stop leak for me (right Digz ?)
The old radiator had been replaced recently after it had been flushed and was still not cooling the van down, so gunk is a good possibility. Only good thing about replacing all the stuff since purchase is at least I know what I've got...
The old radiator had been replaced recently after it had been flushed and was still not cooling the van down, so gunk is a good possibility. Only good thing about replacing all the stuff since purchase is at least I know what I've got...
Lazarusvan- Number of posts : 1293
Location : Charleston, South Carolina
Age : 51
Registration date : 2011-02-22
- Post n°41
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Dumbass alert: It helps when the switch is turned "on." I wondered why it had gotten warm last time and all the sudden stopped working... Our weather was briefly cold and then got warm (sorry snowbirds). We'll be back up to 65 degrees this Friday.
At least I can admit my shortcomings...
At least I can admit my shortcomings...
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- Post n°42
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Great thread.
I'll be doing mine (2nd Gen) as well. Radiator is leaking now. Going to do both units including hoses.
Has anyone sourced new 2nd Gen radiators?
I'll be doing mine (2nd Gen) as well. Radiator is leaking now. Going to do both units including hoses.
Has anyone sourced new 2nd Gen radiators?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°43
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
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- Post n°44
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Downflow. The 2nd Gen 6Cyl radiator in your more than excellent photo is it I believe.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°45
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
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- Post n°46
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Thanks Don,
I see new radiators like this listed for my vehicle. What are the dimensions of the one in the photo and do you know if/where the brackets would be available?
I see new radiators like this listed for my vehicle. What are the dimensions of the one in the photo and do you know if/where the brackets would be available?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°47
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
I would say they only think they have a radiator that fits your van,,,,,,the upper mount is welded to the bump outs in your doghouse,,,,the lower is bolted to your frame,,,,,it needs a recirc line that goes into your upper hose to get the air out of the system,,,,those are all wrecking yard parts,,,,,and if you have the 4 row radiator,,,,,,you got the best cooling Chevy Van radiator out there,,,,,,I thought about putting in that 2nd Gen cooling system,,,,but I changed my mind,,,,,
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- Post n°48
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Do you still have these parts? If so, would you like to sell them?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°49
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
I still have them, but I am keeping them,,,,I might need them some day,,,,,,I probably got an extra surge tank and leaky radiator,,,,,maybe a bottom mount,,,,,you would surely need to get the radiator recored,,,,the rest of the parts are not too hard to find,,,especially in LA,,,,you got all kinds of Pick a Parts up there,,,,,and people post when they find an Early up there that needs pickin,,,,,
mbasaraba- Number of posts : 823
Location : North Central Alabama
Registration date : 2009-01-08
- Post n°50
Re: 1st Gen Heater Core
Don,
Is this the best setup to go with for a V8 given the extra volume? I am watching an expansion tank on Ebay right now.
Is this the best setup to go with for a V8 given the extra volume? I am watching an expansion tank on Ebay right now.
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