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    Post by Vanish Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:41 pm

    We are trying to put some glass up front of the No Door ... I went and got a gasket for a 64-66 Chevy truck Just like Just about every one else has .... and it Looks like it's going to have to be cut to make it work ... Just wondering if any one here has been up against this before ??? Some have said that it fits without having to cut the gasket ??? and some have had to cut it ??? if you have used this gasket before did you have to cut yours ??? or did you use something else ?? Thanks .......

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    Post by donivan65 Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:56 pm

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    Post by m1dadio Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:11 pm

    I used the 65 pick up truck gasket on my 65 van. It was an aftermarket part number, I can't remember now.

    It did seem to fit onto the glass a little sloppy, But once installed into the frame in settled in under compression and as the next few days passed it all settled right in nice.

    That picture looks like it could be the same as my gasket but I didn't try it on the fram first.
    Try putting it on the glass and see what thats like.

    It looks like you have about an axtra inch or more but I think you could spread that around the frame evenly under compresion and it should fit. I wouldn't cut that.

    My windshield was installed with the rubber on the glass and sat in at the bottom. then pulled in up both sides and across the top using a string and well soaped up rubber. Some time after that it settled in; then that black butal rubber caulking was put into the rubber from both the glass and metal sides. to seal it, messy but has to be done. Some install the rubber and windshield with the cualking all at once but I think that would be real messy, and it might glue down defor it settles into place.



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    Post by m1dadio Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:12 pm

    OH ya, soak the gasket in medium hot water first.

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    Post by m1dadio Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:24 pm

    you can see here how loose it fit the glass. Look at the left side. It seemed to be too big but once pushed into the frame the rubber compressed and spread the extra around evenly and it fit nice.

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    Post by m1dadio Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:26 pm

    Thats glass guy who said it will shrink a bit once the sun is on it, if it has a split, that will open up.

    Put the bonded joiont at the bottom center.

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    Post by GreyFoxMC Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:59 am

    Just what M1D said.
    I installed gaskets in the `65 GMC & `66 Chevy without cutting.
    Take your time.
    Move the gasket around the glass so that the "extra" is even.
    Soap & rope works the best.
    Don't forget the 3M bedding compound !
    Lay the gasket in the sun to make it flexible.
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    Post by BILLS66 Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:14 am

    A friend of mine (glass guy) installed mine with no cutting. Bill
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    Post by donivan65 Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:26 am

    Ok,,,,,,,,,gasket on windshield,,,,,,,looks like about 4" too long,,,,,SO,,,,,,next question is WHERE did you get it? Looks like not all 1966 Chevy Pick Up windshield gaskets may not be made EXACTLY the same size or EXACTLY right,,,,,,,,,


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    Post by GreyFoxMC Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:16 pm

    I used GM # 3794940 which in the 1958-65 GM truck book shows :
    1964-65 all exc cowls, g-10-g910, P models exc deluxe equip (no molding)
    group 16.040

    Don't know what to tell you.
    Had no problems with the gasket or install.

    There wasn't that much extra gasket on mine ...

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    Post by donivan65 Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:20 pm

    The question still is,,,,,,,Where did you get it????,,,,,,,,Chevy Dealer???
    I think this one is from Brothers, W466std,,,,,,,probably a cheap Taiwanese copy,,,,,,
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    Post by Digz Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:29 pm

    Im wondering if you are running into the same thing I did ,, the windshield you are replacing may have been cut to small in the first place if its not original., I had some numbers written down somewhere , but 59 and 1/4 inches diagonal comes to mind for original glass ?? maybe ...
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    Post by donivan65 Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:41 pm

    I can measure that,,,,,,,but it still dont fit in the frame,,,,,,here is another one that I had to cut,,,,,,,,,,I am wondering if the 60-63 pick up gasket is any better or if they are mixing them up,,,,,,


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    Post by m1dadio Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:36 pm

    That does look too long.

    Mine was an aftermarket gasket. Started with W in the part number but I don't think it was the number you have. As I recal there is another very simular part number from the same suplyer for the 2nd gen gasket.

    Your gasket is so long I now think you might have the 2nd gen one.

    There is a proper bonding agent to re seam it if you are going to cut it down.

    I will look for the paper work on the gasket I used and repost in a minute.

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    Post by m1dadio Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:03 pm

    found it "corrected numbers below"

    I used the WBL653 gasket which is for the 64-66 PU.

    The WBL693 is the one that fits the 2nd gen van and many glass shops and parts dealers try to say that 64 to 70 Chevy is all the same windshield. Thier parts books are clearly wrong. Some supliers use WCR653 for thier 2nd gen WS gasket!! look at those numbers, it would be very easy for them to mistakenly send you the wrong one.

    I think if you google that number you will find the suplier. Its not expensive as I recall it was $43 CND shipping and all. I think that means its a $27 gasket to you guys.

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    Post by m1dadio Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:14 pm

    here is an example of the weatherstip connection catalog that claims the ws gasket for 65-70 is wbld693! we know thats not so.

    http://www.weatherstripconnection.com/WSTRIPcatalogue.pdf

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    Post by donivan65 Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:16 pm

    This gasket is a W466 which Brothers says fits the 64-66 pick up,,,,,thats probably wrong,,,,,,,I would say the REAL pick up gasket is the WBL653,,,,,,,,,and thats about as close as you are going to get to a 1st Gen gasket,,,,,,,,,now that W466 sure has potential to fit a 2nd Gen,,,,,,,,,,so where can you get a WBL653? Truckandcarshop shows a 64-07204 for $27 that allegedly fits a 64-66 pick up,,,,,,,,,,so we are back to WHERE DID YOU GET IT?


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    Post by GreyFoxMC Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:20 am

    Mine is a genuine GM product.
    Paid 70 bucks with tax a few years ago.

    You can find one at http://www.jcwhitney.com/
    Enter this SKU - 1JA 132435

    Or anyone that carries the WBL653 gasket.

    Scroll down this list to windshield rubber
    http://home.comcast.net/~cargovan1966/parts.htm
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    Post by panelmanrd Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:01 pm

    I bought mine from classic parts in riverside mo. was a little long
    but fit very nice once installed it was only 29.99 plus shipping.
    was a gasket for the 66 non deluxe model.
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    Post by donivan65 Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:59 pm

    So what does a little long mean,,,,,,,,did you have to cut it?
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    Post by m1dadio Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:09 pm

    on that list I showed earlier. They show "G van 65 to 70 WBLD693"
    Thats not correct for 64 t0 66 G van

    BUT they show "GM truck 64-66 take a WBL653 for standard no crome insert or WCR653 for the custon PU with crome strip.

    This list is fron the "Wheatherstrip Connection" where I bought mine from.

    http://www.weatherstripconnection.com/

    I used the WBL653 and althought a little loose it went in nice no cutting. I don't know who the suplier is but I do think it was Precision and that that is thier part number.



    FOR TRUCKS PLEASE SPECIFY WITH OR WITHOUT CHROME TRIM
    GM TRUCKS 47-53 WBL/WCR4235S $ 44.90
    GM TRUCKS 54-55 WBL/WCR362 $ 41.90
    GM TRUCKS 55-59 WBL/WCR407 $ 41.90
    GM TRUCKS 60-63 WBL/WCR587D $ 45.90
    GM TRUCKS 64-66 WBL/WCR653 $ 42.90
    GM TRUCKS 67-72 WCR/WBL685/A $ 41.90
    GM TRUCKS 73-87 WBL/WCR848 $ 37.90
    GM VAN (G SERIES) 65-70 WBLD693 $ 58.90
    GM VAN (G SERIES) 73-80 WBL/WCR853 $ 55.90

    The weatherstrip connection is close to me, but he dosn't make the gaskets, hes just a middle man.

    I will keep looking for you
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    Post by m1dadio Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:35 pm

    These people suplly the auto glass industry

    http://igdglass.com/mouldings.shtml

    They buy from the manufacturer "precision" at

    http://prp.com/

    The IGDglass people have the gasket listed as part number DM-653WBL.
    Which is thier number for the " DW Moulding WBL653 "number from precision.


    With this imformation your local auto glass installer should be able to get you the right gasket or you could order it from any of the clasic truck part supliers.

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    Post by m1dadio Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:58 pm

    these guys have one for $28

    http://www.parts123.com/PartFrame.asp?ZTM=cadeflka&GHOME=www.obschevy.com&TITLE=Obsolete_Chevrolet_Part_Co

    Here is the gasket under other part numbers

    Part Number Cross Reference
    D41000T
    Replaces 64-79500-S
    Replaces 8065
    Replaces D4-1000-T
    Replaces WBL653

    Also the N.A.G.S. gasket number is DW653 and the glass number is D4439
    The local glass shop may want the "list" price which is around $80

    Run them all on google, to find one close to you.

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    Post by savage Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:47 am

    I have put 1 in (CA 65)and paid to have 1 put in(64 Nodoor) & they both were cut down (Inch &1 /2 0n my job &,2 in on paid job) and I think I shouldn't of cut it ,it seems to short in corners. Just about what I cut off??
    In Dons pics it looks like the gaskets not all the way in the corners??
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    Post by donivan65 Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:52 am

    Hey Tom,,,,,,can you squeeze into waist size 30 pants,,,,,,,I guess one thing that I am saying is that this part# W466STD from Brothers is too big,,,,,,needs cutting,,,,,,,,and I don't even know for sure IF this is a 66 pick up gasket OR if it is defective,,,,,,,,so don't expect me to be telling anyone to get your 1st Gen gasket from Brothers,,,,,,,so keep listing OTHER not BROTHER sources,,,,,,,,,


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