Help locating a part

sure a picture is worth a hundred posts ,,LOL

At least thats what I think I hear click on when I hit the peddle. The fuse box is right behind it (under my hand) so it might be a different relay clicking there. Im 90% sure that what I am pointing at in the picture is what clicks when I hit the brakes.

Okay ,if im reading the schematic right that looks like a single relay which surely could be used in a brake light circuit. The flasher unit on your old fusebox was that small metal can that plugged in. Is there anything like that on your system now? You may have gotten to "modern" for me to dial this in, LOL, but it still seems like you have no power to the turn signals at all..
Where is Lawton ?

There is a metal can like relay on the new system. Its plugged into the new fuse box.

Lawton is a little southwest of Kalamazoo by Paw Paw. Although I should update my location; I bought a house in Three Rivers a few months ago.

I need to correct myself after reading again ,, looks like you are powering the turn signal system with the brake, the blue wires? should be for the front blinkers and dash indicators and not be effected by the brake, the black is the ground for the horn, white is from the brake and goes to the turn signal switch
Purple feeds the turn signal switch from the flasher relay? you should have to have the key on to get power to the purple I think. it seems to me that having power to the blue with the brake on would mean the brake is wired into the haness wrong all this could mean the turn siganl switch in the column is bad also, but seeing as it worked before the redo Im still leaning towards a simple wire misplacement. also if anybody sees where I am wrong please correct me !! Im much better at this staring at it than thinkin about it, thats why I asked how far away ya were. 125 miles maybe , think coldwater is that far.

All of this was done with the key on. So if your right the purple should have worked.

I wondered if that was it. I saw a spot for that on my steering column but its broken off. I will see if I can still press whats left of it I guess...

my hazard button is broken off inside the column as well, before you try pushing it farther in, find a screw or bolt with threads small enough to take to the inner horseshoe shaped piece of whats left inside - and pull it out. listen for an audible click or look for a change in your lights' behavior..

Thanks for the advice copenhagenfiend, the screw worked well.
Trying to use the hazards did nothing. I tried it key on and key off and nothing happens.

My fuse box doesnt have a seperate fuse for each turn signal like you seemed to described. Maybe Im just not reading it right but thats what it sounds like.

Here is my fuse box:


I checked TURN B/U, STOP-HZ, and BRAKE. All of them have power in one terminal. Since things with mine didnt seem to be the same as the system you were explaining I wasnt sure what to do about jumping across anything. Oh I also checked the big metal turn signal relay there on the bottom right corner of the picture. That is getting power too.

There is only one flasher on my fuse box and everything has power the way it is supposed to.

But I found out thats only the way things seem. Everything has power but I dont know where it is coming from. To explain from the beginning I went around rechecking everything and it was good. Then I put the flashers on and nothing seemed to change. But then I hit the brake peddle, for what reason I dont remember. When I hit the brake peddle with the flashers on all the lights on the van light up. So let me go through all I found out yesterday.

Normally when I hit the brakes the rear lights come on and that front right signal comes on as well as the right signal light on the dash. (was this way when I bought the van and everything worked)

Now when I hit the brakes the rear lights work, front signal comes on, but no dash signal.
When I hit the brakes with the turn signal stalk switched to a direction the rear light on that side of then van doesnt light. If the direction is to the right that front signal goes out with the right rear light.

If I turn the hazards on and hit the brakes both front signals come on and both rear lights come on and the right signal on the dash. That makes me think the left signal dash light just needs to be replaced.

So because of this phenomenon I decided to start pulling fuses to try and get a better idea of what was going on. I removed the flasher relay first and there was no change. I then removed the STOP HZ and there was no change. I removed TURN BU and there was no change. I removed BRAKE and there was no change. The only thing that made the lights go out was removing POWER ACC. So I guess my fuse box was wired incorrectly with everything going to that fuse?

So you actually want me to pull those wires out of the plastic connector under the dash?

I dont have a soldering iron so can I just unplug the connector to do this?
Or am I misunderstanding something?