by Woody bovie Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:26 amDoes anyone know what you have to do to make a G20 a G10? Or at least the front end that is where i am having problems.
+4
kookykrispy
Russell
donivan65
Woody bovie
8 posters
G20 to G10
Woody bovie- Number of posts : 5
Location : Monclova ohio
Registration date : 2019-02-16
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12246
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
so,,,,,are them 6 lug hubs causing you problems? Sandyvan here has one of each van sitting in his driveway ,,,,,,,
Russell- Number of posts : 698
Location : Chula Vista, Ca.
Age : 64
Registration date : 2015-12-08
Take out the ashtray and roll another van underneath of it?Woody bovie wrote:Does anyone know what you have to do to make a G20 a G10? Or at least the front end that is where i am having problems.
Woody bovie- Number of posts : 5
Location : Monclova ohio
Registration date : 2019-02-16
Ok thanks guys I’ll just leave it alone I guess. The wheels are good it’s just the steering parts looks like rare parts are the only people to make tie rod ends and they are 230.00 shipped. But a g10 is like 55 from just about any parts store I’m trying to think long term so I was thinking about swapping out the front axle and making it a g10. I am guessing it’s a lot harder than that. I plan on making a lot lot of trips back and forth east coast to west coast with my van.
kookykrispy- Number of posts : 1533
Location : Helendale, CA
Age : 51
Registration date : 2009-05-22
if you had a 1/2 ton parts van, it would be a snap. Finding the donor van would be the trick. Just swap axles front and rear. Much better wheel selection too.
Woody bovie- Number of posts : 5
Location : Monclova ohio
Registration date : 2019-02-16
Ok thank you I’m going to start looking for a good donor van.
samsvan- Number of posts : 672
Location : Sarasota, Fl.
Age : 61
Registration date : 2014-09-04
What year is your van? The leaf springs are different on 1st and 2nd gen's. I don't know if you can mix and match the spring perches and u bolts. I'm sure someone on here does though.
kookykrispy- Number of posts : 1533
Location : Helendale, CA
Age : 51
Registration date : 2009-05-22
to swap entire axles like I suggested, it will need to be another 2nd gen.
samsvan- Number of posts : 672
Location : Sarasota, Fl.
Age : 61
Registration date : 2014-09-04
Kooky, how did you know his is a 2nd gen? Is that when they started making the g20's?
Woody bovie- Number of posts : 5
Location : Monclova ohio
Registration date : 2019-02-16
Thanks again guys. I know I will need a 2nd gen van I’m not sure what I’m going to do yet. But I do appreciate all the Info
Space Truckin- Number of posts : 1279
Location : Upland,Ca
Age : 69
Registration date : 2009-10-17
samsvan wrote:Kooky, how did you know his is a 2nd gen? Is that when they started making the g20's?
IIRC, 67 was first year G20...FWIW...
sandyvan- Number of posts : 526
Location : San Diego, CA
Registration date : 2011-03-13
samsvan wrote:What year is your van? The leaf springs are different on 1st and 2nd gen's. I don't know if you can mix and match the spring perches and u bolts. I'm sure someone on here does though.
Correct-a-mundo! The springs are much wider and the axle is different. The only problem I have with the 3/4 ton six lug setup is wheel options are limited, and the biggie is that no one has yet put together a disc brake conversion kit. I know a guy who "is working on it". The front drums are large and you cannot find replacements, no one makes them. A second Gen G10 is close but no cigar. I completely rebuilt my brake system Master Cylinder to rear shoes but couldn't find anyone to turn the front drums as they were past "spec". Liability issues I suppose. But they have good life left in them still and the van stops well. I would like discs or at least a remote booster as the van is heavier than my 1st Gen so its harder to stop with all manual all drums.
As far as all the steering parts, tie rods etc. they shouldn't be hard to find.
sandyvan- Number of posts : 526
Location : San Diego, CA
Registration date : 2011-03-13
Woody bovie wrote:Ok thanks guys I’ll just leave it alone I guess. The wheels are good it’s just the steering parts looks like rare parts are the only people to make tie rod ends and they are 230.00 shipped. But a g10 is like 55 from just about any parts store I’m trying to think long term so I was thinking about swapping out the front axle and making it a g10. I am guessing it’s a lot harder than that. I plan on making a lot lot of trips back and forth east coast to west coast with my van.
You could just toss the entire stock suspension and bag it. But then you'd have to spend two grand on a sound system!
couldn't find a photo of a lowered G20
Woody bovie- Number of posts : 5
Location : Monclova ohio
Registration date : 2019-02-16
Thanks for all the info guys. I’m not really sure what I’m going to do yet but for now I’m going to replace the tie rod ends and just roll it. Down the road I hope to change it to a g10 but that’s just out of the budget right now.
jrinaman- Number of posts : 890
Location : zelienople,pa.
Age : 60
Registration date : 2011-03-10
you should be able to get a complete axle for what you quoted on tie rod ends! post a 'wanted' ad here or vcvc, plenty of van hoarders in ohio/Michigan area. if you cant find one, junkyard on ohio/pa line has one and reasonable. $200 cash got me all 6 doors.
sandyvan- Number of posts : 526
Location : San Diego, CA
Registration date : 2011-03-13
I may have misspoke - do the 2nd Gen G10s have the wider springs and perches like the G20s?
kookykrispy- Number of posts : 1533
Location : Helendale, CA
Age : 51
Registration date : 2009-05-22
sandyvan wrote:I may have misspoke - do the 2nd Gen G10s have the wider springs and perches like the G20s?
All 2nd gens (both G10/G20) have the same width springs, and same perches.
1st gen (64-66) springs are narrower, and perches are in a different location, so 1st gen & 2nd gen axles do not interchange.