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    1965 Falcon 170 original Carb?

    Sophia Deluxe
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    Post by Sophia Deluxe Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:14 pm

    I have a 1965 with the 170
    as of now it has a Carter YF4918S B carburetor on there.
    I am not sure if it is original to the engine??
    can anybody tell me if it is the original carb or what is supposed to be on there or which might be the best choice to put on there?
    if this Carter is an ok choice, then I will need a rebuild kit for it.
    thank you
    Seth G
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    Post by Seth G Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:32 pm

    The oem carb would have been an Autolite 1100. They came in 3 or 4 venturi sizes, 1 for the 144, 1 for the 170, 1 for the 200 and the 1101 for the 250 in '69. You want the one for a 200. The holley 1940 was the oem 'replacement' carb for the 1100. The YF is a good carb, better than an 1100, and if it fits and is working, keep it. The one problem is the YF is a standard carb designed for a standard ignition system, the 1100 and the load-o-matic distributor were designed to work in tandem. The lom distributor only has a vacuum advance and it is tuned to the spark control valve on the 1100(and some 1940's). What distributor do you have? Someone may have swapped that to. Being a 65, you "should" be able to drop in a Duraspark II unit and ignition system. Between 68-71 or so the distributor on these engines would look the same but be a dual advance points type. That is good with the yf as well. Does your distributor have centrifugal advance? What is the ford # stamped into it? Is it C8 or later?Als, what is the # casting on the head on your engine? It will be aft of the carb CX etc or Dx and so on. Are you sure your engine is a 170? It takes some adapting to get a YF on a 170 with a pre '69 head, but being a '65 and having a cable throttle would making it slightly easier. Still some customizing of the carb mount would be involved.


    It looks like your carb is off of a 1970 Mustang or Maverick 200 w/ automatic trans. I bet your head head is a C9 or later and I bet the distributor is to.


    Last edited by Seth G on Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
    Sophia Deluxe
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    Post by Sophia Deluxe Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:51 pm

    I just bought the Van awhile back so I will have to look into all of this that you brought up and get back to you.
    I appreciate your initial help and I will get all those part #'s etc so we can verify if it is a 170 and I will find out which distributor I have as well? I would like to put one of those electronic ignitions in it for sure.
    Thank you very much
    Seth G
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    Post by Seth G Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:55 pm

    Yeah, check the last lines I just added. It wouldn't surprise me if your engine was the 200 those parts came from. A 200 is easy to tell from a 170 b/c it has 5 "freeze" plugs on the side of the block. 170's only have 3.
    Sophia Deluxe
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    Post by Sophia Deluxe Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:12 pm

    So I just ran out and checked and the Date code read 0A28 and the engine # reads C90E-60B0-M, I think that is what it reads, I need to clean it off.
    The engine is orange and there is a single vacuum line coming off the distributor but I will need to look into some of those other things you mentioned a little deeper?
    So I do know that the date code equals a January 28th 1970 casting date, correct?
    So I must have a 1969/70 either 170/200 or 240?

    anything else I should look into?
    Barnabas
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    Post by Barnabas Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:53 am

    Carb info for classic Econolines
    http://econoline.org/carburetor.php

    Help you decide which engine you have
    http://econoline.org/engine.php?s=id
    Seth G
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    Post by Seth G Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:03 am

    So if the head is a C9, that is the large log head with the larger carb flange. And is more promising that you do have a 200 out of a 1970 Mustang or Maverick. But you could just have the head and carb. You need to count the freeze plugs on the side of the block under the exhaust manifold. If there are 5 it's a 200, if there are only 3 it's a 170. The date code for the block is on the drivers side, aft of the fuel pump, under the oil pressure sender port.

    There was a guy nearby on craigslist recently that was selling the "144" he pulled from his E truck to put in a v8, but in the pictures it was clearly a 200 from the late seventies. It's a common mistake for people to assume no one swapped the engine in these old rigs.

    Even though it's only 30 ci more, the 200 is a much better engine than the 170 b/c of it's 7 main bearings vs the 170's 4, and the ignition system can't always be upgraded on 170's b/c many of them have a smaller oil pump drive and a different distributor bore.

    Good Luck!

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