VintAGE-Vans

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.... A's, G's & E's


4 posters

    king pin question

    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 9:26 am

    I finally got drum brake hardware off the spindles for my disc upgrade. How much play is acceptable in the king pin? i doubt they've been greased in the last 20 years, so will a new flow of grease do the trick?
    thanks.
    donivan65
    donivan65
    Governor
    Governor


    Number of posts : 12220
    Location : San Diego, California
    Registration date : 2008-05-12

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by donivan65 Sat May 25, 2013 10:21 am

    If there is more than .002 clearance between the kingpin and its bushing, they are worn out,,,,,,and that translates into if you grab the spindle and pull it up and down, you should see no movement where the spindle goes over the axle,,,,,,
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 10:42 am

    thanks for the info. i have a bit of movement. More on the drivers side than the passenger. How hard a job is this to replace? And please tell me i don't have to remove the axle. :0)
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 10:44 am

    also, do i replace with nylon or metal bushings?
    thanks
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 12:07 pm

    ok. i got the kingpins out and spindles removed. I was lucky and it was not difficult. after removing the retaining nut on the side, i removed the dust cap on the top. Using a 5/8 inch spark plug socket, i drove the pins down with a small sledge. If you have a drift pin, use that to drive out the kingpin. The spindles look the same, but i scored one of them just in case. I'm going to get them all cleaned up while i wait for my kingpin set from rockauto.
    thanks everyone.
    donivan65
    donivan65
    Governor
    Governor


    Number of posts : 12220
    Location : San Diego, California
    Registration date : 2008-05-12

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by donivan65 Sat May 25, 2013 12:31 pm

    Just make sure the old kingpin shaft is a tight fit in the axle,,,,,sometimes the hole in the axle wears out,,,,,then you got problems,,,,,,
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 1:05 pm

    From what i've read, the new kingpin should be a snug fit; which is what i think you're telling me. I also came across an interesting tip when greasing the kingpins: lift the vehicle off the ground to take the pressure off the kingpin; this allows the new grease to get all around the pin to properly lubricate.
    donivan65
    donivan65
    Governor
    Governor


    Number of posts : 12220
    Location : San Diego, California
    Registration date : 2008-05-12

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by donivan65 Sat May 25, 2013 1:21 pm

    But make sure 1st that the old kingpin fits tight in the axle,,,,,if the hole in the axle is worn out, new kingpins are not going to help,,,,,sometimes the kingpin shaft gets loose and eats up the axle itself,,,,bushings are made to wear out,,,,but not the hole in the axle,,,,,and they do sometimes,,,,,
    Twinpilot001
    Twinpilot001


    Number of posts : 6186
    Location : spokane ,Wa.
    Registration date : 2009-09-28

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by Twinpilot001 Sat May 25, 2013 1:58 pm

    Ive replaced kingpins before -yet never on any of our vans as yet - i do know before i had ro ream to size some of the metal replaced bushings. Then fit the pins .
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 2:07 pm

    i understand now. I cleaned up the old kingpin and verified that it was a snug fit in the axle. it didn't drop through which is good. lol. yup. snug fit and no play. thanks again for your help.
    Twinpilot001
    Twinpilot001


    Number of posts : 6186
    Location : spokane ,Wa.
    Registration date : 2009-09-28

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by Twinpilot001 Sat May 25, 2013 2:16 pm

    anytime -just grease it good too when installing & after!! cheers
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 2:18 pm

    I just finished cleaning up for the day and couldn't help thinking i got off easy somehow. I re-read what i found on the web, here, and the axle chapter in the manual and figured it out. I still have to get the bushings out of the spindle. lol. The book calls for a special tool (C-328-A), but i'm sure there's another way? anyone know how to get the bushings out? do I need a special tool?
    thanks
    donivan65
    donivan65
    Governor
    Governor


    Number of posts : 12220
    Location : San Diego, California
    Registration date : 2008-05-12

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by donivan65 Sat May 25, 2013 3:03 pm

    Just knock them out with a socket,,,,,,or the right sized flat washer and a punch.....just get mean....i don't think you can damage anything beating out the old bushings,,,,,



    king pin question Kp_410


    Last edited by donivan65 on Sat May 25, 2013 3:10 pm; edited 1 time in total
    equium
    equium


    Number of posts : 107
    Location : Cameron Park, CA
    Registration date : 2011-04-25

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by equium Sat May 25, 2013 3:09 pm

    OK. I'll give that a try. According to the shop manual, the top bushing comes out the top, and the bottom comes out the bottom. I might have to get fancy. lol
    donivan65
    donivan65
    Governor
    Governor


    Number of posts : 12220
    Location : San Diego, California
    Registration date : 2008-05-12

    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by donivan65 Sat May 25, 2013 5:14 pm

    I think that is just the directions for that confusing puller,,,,,,a big vice would work removing and installing the new bushings,,,,,,,or a big bolt or threaded rod to suck the bushings out and in,,,,,,,
    A100 Wrench
    A100 Wrench


    Number of posts : 572
    Location : Sunnyslope,AZ
    Registration date : 2013-05-12

    king pin question Empty ream

    Post by A100 Wrench Sat May 25, 2013 5:36 pm

    Getting out no big deal.After you get the new bushings in. Make sure to slide the pin through.They may need reamed to size.A machine shop can do both operations.

    Sponsored content


    king pin question Empty Re: king pin question

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Fri May 10, 2024 3:04 am