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Optik
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Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
redsockss- Number of posts : 123
Location : CA.
Registration date : 2010-06-03
- Post n°1
Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
Does anyone know what the max. wheel size and tire combo that will fit under a 66 with no rubbing? Sorry to ask so many questions but you guys are brilliant about everything van
m1dadio- Chevy Guru
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depends on how high the springs are too!
M1D
M1D
donivan65- Governor
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redsockss- Number of posts : 123
Location : CA.
Registration date : 2010-06-03
Maybe I'm not too bright...Which is true, but I don't know how this works.
donivan65- Governor
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Location : San Diego, California
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Here is a link to their site,,,,,you put in a size and it tells you all about that tire,,,,,,or compare it to another size,,,,,,and it also tells you what that tire does to your speedometer reading ,,,,
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.dos
redsockss- Number of posts : 123
Location : CA.
Registration date : 2010-06-03
I DONT CARE ABOUT SPEEDO, I CARE ABOUT THE LARGEST TIRE THAT WILL FIT UNDER THE VAN.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
Like M1 said,,,,,,depends on your springs,,,,,,measure how much room you got with the tires that are on it,,,,,,put that size in the 1st box and it will tell you its measurements,,,,,,,measure how much bigger you want or can go and pick a size , (tire or rim) until you find what you want,,,,,,,you just want the biggest diameter that will fit and not rub,,,,,,then choose the width and profile that looks good to you,,,,,,,there are lots of variables,,,,,,look at these 17" on my van,,,,,,,they are actually SMALLER than my 15" mags,,,,,,,,
redsockss- Number of posts : 123
Location : CA.
Registration date : 2010-06-03
ugh again. So, every 66 has different size springs? I'm a little confused. Every vehicle I ever saw had a max tire wheel size combo. I dont have any friends with older cars or trucks so I can't just borrow a set. And, I would hate to get the wrong size and have them not work.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
The vans came with 13" wheels and tires,,,,,17" fit OK,,,,,put whatever fits,,,,,,,turn the front wheels,,,,,see how much room you have between the tire and the wheelwell,,,,,,,use your tires as the base reading,,,,,,if you got 2 inches before the front tires would rub the front wheelwell or hit the top or the top on turns, then you know you could go up to 2 inches bigger diameter tire by using the calculator to find the tire size,,,,,,and choose a rim size that looks good for you,,,,,,,and as M1 also said,,,,,,choose your rims wisely IF you are going to add disk brakes someday
redsockss- Number of posts : 123
Location : CA.
Registration date : 2010-06-03
- Post n°10
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
I read about that and according to Cragar, it doesn't matter the brakes for their wheels.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°11
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
You are not going to find any information on what wheels fit on our vans after we put TransAm, Blazer and Cadillac calipers or Firebird and Nova rotors on our vans in any book,,,,,,,,I doubt that 13" and even some 14" wheels will have enough clearance. You need to think INSIDE the box,,,,,,our vans are different and get even more different when we start modifying them,,,,,,I wouldn't leave home without my front disk brakes,,,,,,and it sure is nice that my Mags fit over them,,,,,,,,
redsockss- Number of posts : 123
Location : CA.
Registration date : 2010-06-03
- Post n°12
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
Wow, that's tough. I did find a engine and tansmission solution however.
I'm putting a polished 350 TPI in her along with a polished 200r trans.
I'm putting a polished 350 TPI in her along with a polished 200r trans.
Optik- Number of posts : 25
Location : Cincinnati, OH
Registration date : 2010-06-15
- Post n°13
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
I have 275/60/15 tires on 15x10 wheels on mine in the back and the tires don't rub when the van is fully loaded. i believe its a 28" tall tire. if you really want a fat-tired van that looks "right", you need to go with 295/50/15 tires on 15x8 rims with about 3-5" of backspace depending on how far you want the tires to stick out the sides. measure first though, don't take this as gospel.
maybe 205/70/15 on the front on 15x6" wheels.
The key to getting it to look "right" is to play with different profile sizes until you find a set that will have the same overall outside diameter or as close as possible, but never get front tires that are bigger diameter than the rear, that always looks wrong and is quite noticeable even with small differences.
-Tim
maybe 205/70/15 on the front on 15x6" wheels.
The key to getting it to look "right" is to play with different profile sizes until you find a set that will have the same overall outside diameter or as close as possible, but never get front tires that are bigger diameter than the rear, that always looks wrong and is quite noticeable even with small differences.
-Tim
RodStRace- Number of posts : 3046
Location : Chino Valley
Registration date : 2010-01-21
- Post n°14
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
You want an easy answer. There is none, for the following reasons.
Stock, they had different springs, which means different ride height and different loaded ride height.
These were commercial vehicles built in the 60s. Tolerances when they were welded and assembled were not tight, so what may fit one one van or even on the left side may not fit on another or the right side!
All of them were built 40+ years ago and have had modifications, damage, fixes, and wear. What worked at the dealership may not now.
This means that you have to find a wheel/tire combo that fits YOUR van now.
It also means that you have to consider what your intended use is. The owner that has no interior and drives nice and easy to a cruise night can have the rubber closer to the sheetmetal than the owner that has a full interior, often loads a bunch of stuff inside and is driving it in gymkanas or across country.
You also have to chose if you want the wheel/tire combo to fit inside the stock wheelwells, if a little trimming is acceptable or if you want it sticking out past the sheetmetal. You can tuck a larger diameter tire inside, but it won't be as wide. If you extend out past the sheetmetal, you can go wider, but the diameter must be smaller, since normal suspension movement means the tire will move up toward the fender.
You can load something heavy (sacks of sand or gravel, a couple friends) on each corner to see what normal weight shift and loads do to clearance.
You can use the site listed to get a very good idea of what will fit after you have made measurements. I'd suggest that once you have selected a size that you think will work, try to find a friend with that combo to borrow and try, or go to a wrecking yard and buy one (usually under 50 bucks).
Tire stores used to be very helpful with this sort of thing, but the Explorer/Firestone thing has caused most chain stores to pull back on what they will even sell to the public. Try to find a smaller store and see if they have some stuff already mounted. You can also see if they are willing to pull one wheel, block up the van at normal height and roll tires up and be able to see if they fit. You have to be careful of offset when going this, most wheels only have very limited offset choices, if any. Again, if they have a used wheel and tire that works for you, go ahead and buy it. It can be your spare.
The front should always be the same or smaller. You have to check for clearance not only straight ahead, but through the full turning radius too and with a load. This is where the sacks of sand help. If you plan on a big offset, this will move the center of the wheel out and cause more clearance issues. It will also make the steering harder at low speed.
Your best bet for now is to grab as many pictures as you can of similar vans, and look at what works for you and what doesn't. Print out the good ones to take with you to the tire store. While they won't be able to read the sidewall size, they will have a good idea what you want (picture=1000 words).
One last thing, since you want the biggest possible wheel/tire combo, you will be very close to rubbing/touching. Take it easy and work up to faster cornering and braking speeds. Do not expect the tire store to do minor bodywork to clear, or to keep swapping out tires, especially if damaged! This is your project, take ownership and make it work!
I love this picture! I found it here. This guy is pushing harder than most of us would now. Notice the RF wheel is sized to fit inside the wheelwell, even at an angle and with a lot of weight compressing the suspension.
Notice the RR wheel is sticking out past the fender, but even with all the suspension compression is still not touching. Also notice the LR is off the ground! This is an extreme example, but shows that the clearance you measure when sitting changes when driving.
Stock, they had different springs, which means different ride height and different loaded ride height.
These were commercial vehicles built in the 60s. Tolerances when they were welded and assembled were not tight, so what may fit one one van or even on the left side may not fit on another or the right side!
All of them were built 40+ years ago and have had modifications, damage, fixes, and wear. What worked at the dealership may not now.
This means that you have to find a wheel/tire combo that fits YOUR van now.
It also means that you have to consider what your intended use is. The owner that has no interior and drives nice and easy to a cruise night can have the rubber closer to the sheetmetal than the owner that has a full interior, often loads a bunch of stuff inside and is driving it in gymkanas or across country.
You also have to chose if you want the wheel/tire combo to fit inside the stock wheelwells, if a little trimming is acceptable or if you want it sticking out past the sheetmetal. You can tuck a larger diameter tire inside, but it won't be as wide. If you extend out past the sheetmetal, you can go wider, but the diameter must be smaller, since normal suspension movement means the tire will move up toward the fender.
You can load something heavy (sacks of sand or gravel, a couple friends) on each corner to see what normal weight shift and loads do to clearance.
You can use the site listed to get a very good idea of what will fit after you have made measurements. I'd suggest that once you have selected a size that you think will work, try to find a friend with that combo to borrow and try, or go to a wrecking yard and buy one (usually under 50 bucks).
Tire stores used to be very helpful with this sort of thing, but the Explorer/Firestone thing has caused most chain stores to pull back on what they will even sell to the public. Try to find a smaller store and see if they have some stuff already mounted. You can also see if they are willing to pull one wheel, block up the van at normal height and roll tires up and be able to see if they fit. You have to be careful of offset when going this, most wheels only have very limited offset choices, if any. Again, if they have a used wheel and tire that works for you, go ahead and buy it. It can be your spare.
The front should always be the same or smaller. You have to check for clearance not only straight ahead, but through the full turning radius too and with a load. This is where the sacks of sand help. If you plan on a big offset, this will move the center of the wheel out and cause more clearance issues. It will also make the steering harder at low speed.
Your best bet for now is to grab as many pictures as you can of similar vans, and look at what works for you and what doesn't. Print out the good ones to take with you to the tire store. While they won't be able to read the sidewall size, they will have a good idea what you want (picture=1000 words).
One last thing, since you want the biggest possible wheel/tire combo, you will be very close to rubbing/touching. Take it easy and work up to faster cornering and braking speeds. Do not expect the tire store to do minor bodywork to clear, or to keep swapping out tires, especially if damaged! This is your project, take ownership and make it work!
I love this picture! I found it here. This guy is pushing harder than most of us would now. Notice the RF wheel is sized to fit inside the wheelwell, even at an angle and with a lot of weight compressing the suspension.
Notice the RR wheel is sticking out past the fender, but even with all the suspension compression is still not touching. Also notice the LR is off the ground! This is an extreme example, but shows that the clearance you measure when sitting changes when driving.
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- Post n°15
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
a 325-50-15 would look good on a 10in wheel.
67supervan- Number of posts : 205
Location : Denver
Registration date : 2011-09-20
- Post n°16
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
Anyone know the backspacing/offset and the stud size for the original steel wheels? I can't seem to find original wheels and hubcaps, so I'm trying to find a chevy steelies sized 14x6 or 15x7 that will also accomodate the S10 black hubcaps that debuted in 1982 (and used on various chevy modes through 1998~). I found the photo below of someone using those caps. Anyone know the owner??
Any help would be appreciated.
Any help would be appreciated.
Joe Van- Moderator 1st Class
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Location : Ocala fl
Registration date : 2012-10-11
- Post n°17
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
Optik wrote:I have 275/60/15 tires on 15x10 wheels on mine in the back and the tires don't rub when the van is fully loaded. i believe its a 28" tall tire. and 205/70/15 on the front on 15x6" wheels. .....Thats what size I am running on my 66 GMC also with no issues. ...JOE....
-Tim
Last edited by JOE VAN on Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
Joe Van- Moderator 1st Class
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Location : Ocala fl
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- Post n°18
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
67 supervan...........The 14x6 has about a 4x1/2 inch back spaceing with a 5x4 3/4 bolt patern and a 7/16 thread stud size the 65 and 66 Chevy truck has the same hub caps as the vans and will fit either 14 or 15 inch rims.!!!. 65 does not have the raised rib around the edge 66 does.....New they are aviable at lmc truck or any truck parts restoration place or you can find the caps on ebay under 66 chevy truck parts the rims arent so easy to find you can use any small bolt gm with stock steel rims S 10 pu or late 80s chevy impala will be the easyest to find most S10s are 15 inch witch will work with disk brakes and most styles dog dish hub caps.... The rims and hub caps on that green van are most likely off a 80s or 90s S10 PU.!!!!!........................ Good Luck....JOE...
vanner68- Number of posts : 655
Location : Eastpointe MI
Registration date : 2008-09-22
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Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
67supervan- Number of posts : 205
Location : Denver
Registration date : 2011-09-20
- Post n°20
Re: Max. Wheel size for a 1966 Chevrolet
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I'll be putting up a want ad soon and will be listing s10 and g10 wheels, among other things.