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Leaf Spring Source

Digz: Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17

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Leaf Spring Source

Post by Digz Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:26 am

Just thought I would pass this on,
I did some calling and found out that State Spring Service in Grand rapids MI. still has prints for making springs for my 65. sounds like 650$ will get all four, a 6 and 7 leaf combination for stock. Their number is 1-800-727-8729.
Now, if I can get time to get there!

savage: Number of posts : 2626
Location : Where Rust Never Sleeps in Ft Wayne IN
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Post n°2

Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by savage Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:13 am

Digz, A friend of mine in Indy got some for his 65 window van, from a place in Chi(I think) and he said it drove like new. You got broke springs?? I got a few sets if you looking for used??

donivan65: Governor; Number of posts : 12220
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by donivan65 Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:30 am

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Digz: Number of posts : 3794
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Digz Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:56 pm

I'm gonna go for new ,, mine are toast, cracked,rusted thru you name it they got it.

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I want to also give them a wee bit more arch to help insure some tire clearance, and maybe add for the V-8 auto wieght.

donivan65: Governor; Number of posts : 12220
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by donivan65 Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:15 pm

When they eat through the insert pocket, they are done for,,,,,,but a 4wd shop should be able to make up new leafs just the way you want it,,,,

DanTheVanMan

DanTheVanMan: Commissioner; Number of posts : 7900
Location : Escanaba, Michigan
Age : 62
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:21 pm

Digz,
Did they come with or wothout bushings? Question

Question

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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

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Digz: Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Digz Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:27 pm

They set me up with new bushings, the spring eye bushings were in place, they sent me a bag of harris bros bushings for the shackles, I had to trim off about 1/4 of an inch on one side of each pair to make them fit okay.

DanTheVanMan

DanTheVanMan: Commissioner; Number of posts : 7900
Location : Escanaba, Michigan
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:51 pm

OK, Thanks. Calling them in the morning...
Guess this will be one more on the Credit Card!!!!

Dan

Last edited by DanTheVanMan on Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:31 am; edited 1 time in total

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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

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crazee: Number of posts : 331
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by crazee Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:07 pm

donivan65 wrote:When they eat through the insert pocket, they are done for,,,,,,but a 4wd shop should be able to make up new leafs just the way you want it,,,,

Most medium to larger cities still have "Spring shops" that will make any leaf spring or re-arch or repair them.

Acme Spring is still around I think in a lot of locals.

Or at least I think. Been about 5 years since I had need of a spring shop.

Digz: Number of posts : 3794
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Digz Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:45 pm

Id think you'd be right crazee ,, this shop has done our heavy trucks over the years. Just didnt have a reason to ask them about small stuff til I got the van. made me happy when they said " think we still have the prints around for those".

RipVanArkie

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by RipVanArkie Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:55 pm

Digz,

PICS!!!

Later,
Rip

Digz: Number of posts : 3794
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Digz Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:58 am

Front spring arch
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Just this little bit has maxed out the stock shocks, about 2 1/2 " beyond stock ( thats what I was aiming at anyway) , But it hasnt been driven to get everything settled into place yet. I made my own shackles so the bushings are a still snug.

DanTheVanMan

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:51 am

Digz,
Placed my order! With all the bushings too. Should have them a couple of weeks!! cheers

cheers

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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

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Scott: Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Scott Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:18 am

A little late to the thread..

Scott wrote:Before putting anymore into this I decided to at least see what the cost would be to have the old ones repaired.

Fort Worth Champion Spring Services
1117 Henderson St
Fort Worth, TX 76102
(817) 332-2115

They re-arch and add one leaf to get the height back.

If I just bring in the springs. (Back: $160 / Front: $200)

If I bring in the van. (Whole Job: $800)

Looks like I'm still in the do-it-myself option.

DanTheVanMan

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:41 am

Scott,
State Spring Service in Grand rapids MI. will make you "NEW ONES" for $150 a piece.... And they carry all the bushings too.

Their number is 1-800-727-8729.

They charged me $65 for shipping to Florida.

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DanTheVanMan
1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

spring - Leaf Spring Source Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

DanTheVanMan

DanTheVanMan: Commissioner; Number of posts : 7900
Location : Escanaba, Michigan
Age : 62
Registration date : 2008-10-08

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:41 pm

Suprise, surprise, surprise!
Guess what UPS just delivered?

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Brand spankin new....
With all the bushings!!!

Thanks for all the help Joe..... cheers

cheers

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DanTheVanMan
1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

spring - Leaf Spring Source Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

Nightmoves: Number of posts : 2214
Location : Old Hickory Tenn.
Age : 64
Registration date : 2008-11-17

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Nightmoves Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:07 pm

Man thats great y'all ! Its a shame 2nd Gens are tapered,sure nobody fools with them,beings their limited to a 4 year run.

DanTheVanMan

DanTheVanMan: Commissioner; Number of posts : 7900
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:16 pm

Digz wrote:Just thought I would pass this on,
I did some calling and found out that State Spring Service in Grand rapids MI. still has prints for making springs for my 65. sounds like 650$ will get all four, a 6 and 7 leaf combination for stock. Their number is 1-800-727-8729.
Now, if I can get time to get there!

Moe,
Ya never know. After all these are for a 1st Gen. Only made them for a few years as well. Give Jim a call at State Spring......

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DanTheVanMan
1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

spring - Leaf Spring Source Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

Digz: Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by Digz Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:35 pm

Man I really wanna do a Forrest Gump line about now. Razz

Razz

Glad ya could get them okay! Those will put a lil' rise in yer stride,, Now If ya could tell me the make and part number of your air shocks?

DanTheVanMan

DanTheVanMan: Commissioner; Number of posts : 7900
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:50 pm

OK, New spring are in. Rides awsome. cheers

cheers

Did learn a few things in the process. The pass side front spring that was sagging was not the right spring scratch

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Turns out it had been replaced at one point and with a softer and lesser rated spring. That was what caused the sagging. Shackle bolts came out very easy like they had just been installed yesterday, everything was in great shape too. And since I was going to replace the front ones I just had to replace the rears too. Took about 40 min and 2 beers per spring with no issues at all !!! bom

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So, what I have now is 1 very good front spring and 2 almost perfect rear springs if anyone has interest before they hit eBay. Let me know.

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DanTheVanMan
1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

spring - Leaf Spring Source Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

DanTheVanMan

DanTheVanMan: Commissioner; Number of posts : 7900
Location : Escanaba, Michigan
Age : 62
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:26 pm

She sits really nice too. This is after a 5 mile road test to let them settle. This is "Without" using the Airshocks.....

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Here's the ends of the old front springs. You can see the size different size!!

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And here's the old rear springs. In very good condition....

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DanTheVanMan
1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

spring - Leaf Spring Source Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

donivan65: Governor; Number of posts : 12220
Location : San Diego, California
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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by donivan65 Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:22 am

I think those different sized front springs are normal to compensate for the drivers weight and the offset of the engine,,,,,,,,,I have seen that set up on several vans,,,,,,,,

DanTheVanMan

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:46 am

Maybe but it was causing the front pass side to sag real bad. Either way I'm new all the way around and have one and two good rears as spares. Sure someone will need them sooner or later.

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DanTheVanMan
1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

My Mini Gallery

spring - Leaf Spring Source Qr_cod10

<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by donivan65 Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:03 pm

I guess the springs sag if they always carry a heavy load or they have a lot of miles on them from flexing a lot on rough roads. But there sure is a market for those springs for someone looking to lower their ride,,,,,,So when they are off, side by side, can you notice if they have the same arc?

DanTheVanMan

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Re: Leaf Spring Source

Post by DanTheVanMan Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:44 pm

This one was replace with an incorrect spring. They have the same arc but the replacement one has a lesser load rating and sagged under the add'l weight. No biggie, done deal and she's riding high and level now. Ready for the 15" centerlines and all this brake and disc conversion stuff I've been collecting.

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1965 Chevy G10 Sportvan Custom
1984 Jeep CJ-7 Laredo, Restored
2004 Kawasaki KLR650
1997 Jeep TJ Sport

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<-<-<- Cruising is not a "Point A to Point B" thing, but an "Everything in between thing! <-<-<-

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