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Digz's 65 panel
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°326
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Rich, I got a original air clearer from Digs but it doesn't have the breather from the valve cover. Were you able to purchase it somewhere??
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°327
Re: Digz's 65 panel
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°328
Re: Digz's 65 panel
I know....that's a better setup, but where can someone get a setup like that???
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°329
Re: Digz's 65 panel
That collar came off a pick up,,,,,,,I had to cut it down because it was too tall,,,,,,,,
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°330
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Hey Rich, maybe you could test out that mig by welding a 5/8 tube off the side of the riser and hookin up to a breather cap with a vent tube on it? Don , do you think a person would need the spark arrester with a baffled breather cap?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°331
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Now that baffled cap was used before this collar set up,,,,,,,you need fresh air in a valve cover,,,,, this set up puts the fumes from the valve cover right in the carb,,,,,if the engine backfires or pops, there is a chance that it could blow back into the valve cover,,,,thats why they put that spark arrestor between the 2 hoses,,,,,,its just a bunch of baffles,,,,,you would use a sealed oil filler cap. A breather type cap just puts the fumes in the doghouse,,,,,,now the V8 has a fresh air hose, usually with the crankcase filter tucked inside the air cleaner, so you got that filter and the air filter blocking any backfire from going down into the valve cover,,,,,,
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°332
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°333
Re: Digz's 65 panel
so if you could find a breather cap with a hose connection on it it would be better to go to the filter housing than the riser. I have a plug in breather with a tube, I didnt notice if they had the twist ins in the catalogue.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°334
Re: Digz's 65 panel
So what are we talking about,,,,,,a 6 or an 8 cylinder? And how many holes are there in the valve cover now?
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°335
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Ha ,, I think I'll shut up until I know what Rich has for a valve cover! On all the 6 banger covers I have had you only have the pcv and breather /oil fill hole for openings, never seen a spark arrester on them up close and personal.
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°336
Re: Digz's 65 panel
I was just wondering if we are talking about building a system for Richies 6 cylinder, your V8 or just talking about the different set ups that are used for the PCV sytems,,,,,,,,
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°337
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Joe, don't quite follow you on the 5/8 tube thing. I'm up for building a prototype. I have everything sealed off in my van but still have a lot of fumes.
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°338
Re: Digz's 65 panel
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°339
Re: Digz's 65 panel
I found this online and willing to try something to get rid of the fumes. Got the welder handy!!. Suggestions??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Billet-Oil-Breather-Cap-Press-Chevy-Ford-AMC-Pontiac-/380178991970?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58846f0b62
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Billet-Oil-Breather-Cap-Press-Chevy-Ford-AMC-Pontiac-/380178991970?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58846f0b62
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°340
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Well, most fresh air hoses are like 1" ,,,,,,,,and if you got blowby, nothing but an engine rebuild will get rid of THAT smell,,,,,,,,,
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°341
Re: Digz's 65 panel
That's on my to do list this winter, just got to make it through the summer. I checked for blowby the way you recommended and it seems to be OK, so maybe she's just plum woreout?? I'll keep looking for the truck setup, maybe I'll get lucky?
donivan65- Governor
- Number of posts : 12247
Location : San Diego, California
Registration date : 2008-05-12
- Post n°342
Re: Digz's 65 panel
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°343
Re: Digz's 65 panel
I like that idea!! I'll see what I can find.
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°344
Re: Digz's 65 panel
That billet Ebay breather is a PCV set up , the one i got is just a baffled breather with a 5/8 hose fitting on it. If you could plumb it to the breather it would do the job. you dont want 2 pcv's. might have to make a hole and do the grommet thing in the rocker cover, if we cant find a twist in to fit the Oil fill hole.
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°345
Re: Digz's 65 panel
This is what I am thinking of for you. https://www.streetrodhq.com/detail/18334/TWISTIN_BREATHER_CAP_WITH_SMOG_TUBE_FOR_OIL_FILLER.html
VANagain- Number of posts : 1048
Location : San Diego, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2008-05-16
- Post n°346
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Sorry guys, I wasn't watching this thread lately. Here's a photo of my setup. This engine is a 250 so it was a little newer and came with the breather tube hole in the valve cover. I suppose my air cleaner thingie is from a 2nd Gen too, or a newer pickup, since it has the nipple on it.
That twist-in breather cap that Digz found looks like the easiest way to go if you don't have the breather tube hole. My previous van didn't and I had bought this push in one. The rubber grommet does fit but it leaves two little openings from the twist-in tabs. I suppose you could put a dab of silicone gasket sealer in them. But this push in cap is also a PVC valve and the hose is much smaller. Would that matter? If you want this I'll gladly send it to you. I've had it too long to return it.
I'm not too worried about the spark arrestor. I can't find one online. I'll just keep my eyes open in the junk yards for one like Don's.
That twist-in breather cap that Digz found looks like the easiest way to go if you don't have the breather tube hole. My previous van didn't and I had bought this push in one. The rubber grommet does fit but it leaves two little openings from the twist-in tabs. I suppose you could put a dab of silicone gasket sealer in them. But this push in cap is also a PVC valve and the hose is much smaller. Would that matter? If you want this I'll gladly send it to you. I've had it too long to return it.
I'm not too worried about the spark arrestor. I can't find one online. I'll just keep my eyes open in the junk yards for one like Don's.
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°347
Re: Digz's 65 panel
I have a newer top end with the side breather hole. I can't find the sleeve on top of the carb anywhere online or in the JY. I might drill a hole in the air cleaner and use the 3rd gen setup like the pictures Don posted or weld a setup on the existing sleeve if I can find the parts in the JY to make it. Would have to get a bigger grommet for the valve cover.
Digz- Number of posts : 3794
Location : United States Six Lakes MI
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°348
Re: Digz's 65 panel
If ya got the smog hole Rich I think the best would be the 3rd gen set up. alot less monkeying around.
richie61- Number of posts : 445
Location : Van Nuys, CA
Age : 63
Registration date : 2010-01-04
- Post n°349
Re: Digz's 65 panel
gotavan- Number of posts : 242
Location : Greenville Michigan
Registration date : 2008-05-17
- Post n°350
Re: Digz's 65 panel
Glad you stopped over Joe, I need some inspiration to work on a van
1964 van axle
did you need a roof hole patch?
nats engine?
1964 van axle
did you need a roof hole patch?
nats engine?