disc brakes for an a series

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-A100-64-65-66-67-68-69-70-2200-front-disc-brake-/370470172219?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5641be363b

by the frame rails this is no doubt a set up for d-series pickups and probably not for a-series vans and pickups. i know the axle beam itself is different from one to the other and i'm sure theres differences in the spindles. all we need is a guniea pig to buy and try and see if it works i guess.........

I think he messed up on the pictures.
He's done lots of kits and has a good rep on forums, he's a regular over on Moparts.
I do find it slightly off-putting that all answers are "email us at..."
Note that it is only for the 2200 axle. I have read on the HAMB that he also offers the 2500 axle conversion plates.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5999432#post5999432
I have not been a customer, so this is all second-hand.
I also want to mention that a member on Moparts let me take his disc-equipped van around the block (Thanks, Ran!!! ) and that it had a very stiff pedal. I would like to hear exactly what M/C they suggest, and what the pedal pressures are compared to stock drum.

I was also not real impressed that any questions were not answered except for email us.

I have always wondered if you convert the from over to disc, with greater stopping abilities, do you have to alter the weight in the rear to keep the truck from flipping over on itself. Drums only have so much grip and I would assume that they have the weight set to cover that amount of braking resistance. IF that changes, does the back end become real light or come off ground under hard braking? Just wondering

Maybe it's easier to handle emails. Some people are more phone-centric, others prefer written communication.
Discs offer more stopping and less fade. Unless you are in a panic situation, you only use what's needed to stop. Just like you don't full throttle from every stop, you don't slam on the brakes every time. I wouldn't worry about doing stoppies like that Econoline video unless you have removed the weight, have only a small amount of fuel and are slamming on the brakes.
If during testing and adjustment you find this happening, you could add a ballast bumper or other integrated weight to the back. Just don't go crazy with it and you can avoid having a tail-happy machine.

Well hum.. I thought it was always foot to the floor from stop light to stop light.. and as for your comment on the brake use, I will print this and give it to the wife.. haha. seems like I replace brakes on her vehicles about twice as much then mine..

Well, stock VW vans do require the gas pedal to be used as an ON/OFF switch.

Darn, forgot the disclaimer....
Results are not typical. Your results may vary. All claims are by paid actors. Does not include tax, license and handling. Some setup required. May cause erections lasting more than 4 hours. Do not operate heavy machinery. Do not call your van Heavy Machinery. Do not call your erection Heavy Machinery.


If you can build a space ship that travels at light speed, how does it stop?

Like the disclaimer.. Might need to use it a few times myself.

Was wondering how to post a thread on the body work that I am about to start on my PU. I have a restoration shop that is going to be doing the work and I will be getting pics as the process proceeds. Any suggestions on how to do a post that is an on going process?

Member's Showcase. Start a thread on your PU and post updates as you go!

Make sure you photograph and bag-n-tag when you strip it down. Lots to remember, and you can clean/paint/plate as you go and have each component and the fasteners ready for reassembly that way.

Have you figured out a color scheme?

I have not figured it out entirely yet, but have the side profiles to play around with. I want to keep it close to what it is as it was how my grandma ordered it when she bought it. Am thinking of doing a pearl flake white, and then put the red strip back on it but not sure which shade of red to use yet. Also considering a black pinstrip between the two colors to just add an accent to it. What are your thoughts?

Whatever works for you. It's such a personal thing, with all sorts of input (your history, for example) that the main thing is that it makes YOU happy.

Yes I truely undstand that. There are a few trucks out there that I have really liked. Very good ideas on how to do something different. I willl be working with the shop to figure out what color red that I want to use. I hope to have it done by May of this year as there are a few local shows that would be fun to have it in. we will see.

I have emailed scarebird and they send me a ton of great information! they sound like really great guys. Im thinking of ordering a pair of plates this week and I'll let ya know know how it goes. Pretty exited to have discs in the old van!!

k i bought these and they dont work

why didn't they work?
Wrong bracket pattern, rotor didn't fit, caliper didn't fit?

jkr wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-A100-64-65-66-67-68-69-70-2200-front-disc-brake-/370470172219?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5641be363b

by the frame rails this is no doubt a set up for d-series pickups and probably not for a-series vans and pickups. i know the axle beam itself is different from one to the other and i'm sure theres differences in the spindles. all we need is a guniea pig to buy and try and see if it works i guess.........

i was afraid that might be the case. hopefully they give you full credit for the kit.
and by the part books i have access to the axle beam, spindles, and steering parts are all different.
but we have to remember one thing, there are more d-series pickup trucks out there than a-series vans and pickups.

the idler arm bolts were to big for the pattern he gave me! he says its cuz mine is a 2500 axle but its not its a 2200. cuz 2 of my 108s have the 2500, and my 3 100 have the 2200. so i think they messed up! and they have brackets for the 2500 but they cost more:( and idk if he will refund me or not? plus im going to have to pay shipping and handling 3 times now if get the new ones!

Did this ever get worked out?

john

yes it ended up working awesome after all the hassel of it! very happy with the out come.

Pictures or it didn't happen!!!

Did the factory sway bar clear everything?

I want to do this soon!!

blackace wrote:I was also not real impressed that any questions were not answered except for email us.

I have always wondered if you convert the from over to disc, with greater stopping abilities, do you have to alter the weight in the rear to keep the truck from flipping over on itself. Drums only have so much grip and I would assume that they have the weight set to cover that amount of braking resistance. IF that changes, does the back end become real light or come off ground under hard braking? Just wondering

A proportioning valve is used so that both the front and rear brakes are both used/working to stop a vehicle. It also will allow half of the system to work briefly should there be a failure to the other (front/rear). All disc/drum combinations use this device probably still, but through the 90's this was still being used. Basically, it divides the hydraulic pressure as needed for the system.

A couple of points since this topic is back up.

Ran has a picture of his setup including the sway bar spacer he had to have fabricated over on Moparts.
It's about half way down page three.
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=6963525&page=0&fpart=3&vc=1

Proportioning valves; Stuff with disc/drum setups have a 'combination valve' that includes a proportioning valve and a brake light switch to indicate when you have uneven pressures. You can use an adjustable P valve (Mopar made one for years, they are also common in the street rod market, but the switch is not commonly added. Since the OE ones are designed and made for each vehicle, it's probably not a good idea to just grab one unless the vehicle's brake size and weight bias is the same. You can just type "adjustable proportioning valve" into Google and get lots of info and prices.