318 Auto, 2 BBl. Carter carb., '68 p/u
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SPEAKING OF LOKAR
gary h- Number of posts : 474
Location : tn.
Registration date : 2012-10-19
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SPEAKING OF LOKAR
Does Lokar make a throttle cable set-up for us ? I would love to eliminate the factory rod set up.
318 Auto, 2 BBl. Carter carb., '68 p/u
318 Auto, 2 BBl. Carter carb., '68 p/u
lws67- Number of posts : 193
Location : Upstate South Carolina
Age : 58
Registration date : 2012-06-20
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Nobady makes anything for these things. You gotta fabricate, modify, improvise. Best bet is to use a bellcrank, a couple of cable brackets, and a push/pull cable. All improvised, with lots of fabrication.😞 With my V8 swap, I gutted everything throttle related, sourced a new pedal, bellcrank, made cable mounting brackets, made some throttle rod guides, bent the old slant six rod to reuse it along with a Lokar cable, to hook it all up. Wouldn't want to have to do it again!
BADBADGER- Number of posts : 246
Location : Minden Nv
Age : 77
Registration date : 2009-05-15
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Lokar
My 67 A100 has the 318 with Edelbrock performer intake and Edelbrock carb. The entire throttle assembly including the gas pedal, trans kickdown is all Lokar. It works really well. But the total cost is expensive. Currently working on a 65 Ranchero with 289 and 4 speed. Am using the same system minus the kickdown part.
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Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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Do you know the kit or part numbers used?
jkr- Number of posts : 1148
Location : prince edward island canada
Age : 66
Registration date : 2008-05-29
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well I went through this situation myself a few years back. I had all original stuff too!!!!. but after adding new and thicker insulation to the doghouse mine was hitting and affecting both shift quality and wide open throttle. after obtaining a lot, and I mean a lot of different combinations I found a setup that works perfectly.
1968-69 dodge dart, 273 or 318 and auto trans have a setup that uses two bellcranks to make close quarters for rods work. the first one is at the back of the intake and converts linear action (back and forth) to downward motion where it hooks into the second bellcrank to convert it back to linear action. now understand most darts of that vintage use 904 transmissions so be advised you will need to swap out the lever at your trans and make sure it is for a 727. they look the same but they are actually a different length and that affects the geometry. ASK ME, I KNOW. some minor adjusting and it should work very well. most of you swap to a 4bbl any way so the linkage from the carb to the first bellcrank is cut to length with an adjuster sleeve as you will need one if not two places for minor adjustments. let the searching begin....
1968-69 dodge dart, 273 or 318 and auto trans have a setup that uses two bellcranks to make close quarters for rods work. the first one is at the back of the intake and converts linear action (back and forth) to downward motion where it hooks into the second bellcrank to convert it back to linear action. now understand most darts of that vintage use 904 transmissions so be advised you will need to swap out the lever at your trans and make sure it is for a 727. they look the same but they are actually a different length and that affects the geometry. ASK ME, I KNOW. some minor adjusting and it should work very well. most of you swap to a 4bbl any way so the linkage from the carb to the first bellcrank is cut to length with an adjuster sleeve as you will need one if not two places for minor adjustments. let the searching begin....
BADBADGER- Number of posts : 246
Location : Minden Nv
Age : 77
Registration date : 2009-05-15
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lokar
Pedal spacer kit Lok Gps 6016
Kickdown kit Lok Kd 2727 Ht
Gad pedal Lok Fmg 6097
Throttle cable Lok Tc 1000 Ht 108
Kickdown kit Lok Kd 2727 Ht
Gad pedal Lok Fmg 6097
Throttle cable Lok Tc 1000 Ht 108
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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Right on... thanks!
slowflapper- Number of posts : 956
Location : GA
Age : 54
Registration date : 2010-07-29
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Pegasus Auto Racing can make you a throttle cable to order. I got one for my '65 and just have a clamp bracket on the intake behind the carb linkage to hold the end of it.
Scott- Number of posts : 1651
Location : Anoka, MN
Age : 54
Registration date : 2008-05-20
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I called Lokar for a cable solution after I bought the shifter, the guy told me they didn't make anything that would work for the van, and that my shifter would not work either.
But, since the shifter was made for the transmission I was using I knew I could do it. So I ended up buying boat shifter cable. You can order them as long as you need, and they are flexable, but very ridged.
Works good for me.
But, since the shifter was made for the transmission I was using I knew I could do it. So I ended up buying boat shifter cable. You can order them as long as you need, and they are flexable, but very ridged.
Works good for me.
Keith D- Number of posts : 405
Location : El Dorado Hills, Ca
Registration date : 2016-11-25
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BADBADGER wrote:Pedal spacer kit Lok Gps 6016
Kickdown kit Lok Kd 2727 Ht
Gad pedal Lok Fmg 6097
Throttle cable Lok Tc 1000 Ht 108
BADBADGER... I am going to be running the same setup as you are running. I have all the pieces that you listed. I was laying out where the pedal will go and it looks like it will fit with no interference issues. I was wondering why you needed the spacer?
Thanks... Keith D
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Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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Let us know how it goes.
Keith D- Number of posts : 405
Location : El Dorado Hills, Ca
Registration date : 2016-11-25
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it looks like it is going to work out good. It is typical Lokar stuff, very good quality at a very high price.
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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😂
BADBADGER- Number of posts : 246
Location : Minden Nv
Age : 77
Registration date : 2009-05-15
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Speaking of Lokar
Back to Keith D. I used the pedal spacer for a bit of extra heigth on the pedal. I have extra padding under the front carpet, so it worked abit better for me. Personal preference really!
Keith D- Number of posts : 405
Location : El Dorado Hills, Ca
Registration date : 2016-11-25
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BADBADGER wrote:Back to Keith D. I used the pedal spacer for a bit of extra heigth on the pedal. I have extra padding under the front carpet, so it worked abit better for me. Personal preference really!
Thanks!!!
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Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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Any updates Keith?
Keith D- Number of posts : 405
Location : El Dorado Hills, Ca
Registration date : 2016-11-25
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I modified the floor board for the Lokar pedal, it will work out good.
I have about two weeks worth of work to do on the van then I will have it towed to American Stripping to get it media blasted and epoxy primed, can't wait.
BTW... I saw your listing for the belly pan support panel. I have a belly pan that I got with the van but I have not mounted it. I don't have a support panel that I can see, where does this go? Do all the vans have them? Mine is a 1967 108.
I have about two weeks worth of work to do on the van then I will have it towed to American Stripping to get it media blasted and epoxy primed, can't wait.
BTW... I saw your listing for the belly pan support panel. I have a belly pan that I got with the van but I have not mounted it. I don't have a support panel that I can see, where does this go? Do all the vans have them? Mine is a 1967 108.
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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There should be a support panel on the driver and passenger side. I only have the passenger side panel.
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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Is there any way to retain the original gas pedal and throttle linkage when installing a 4bbl carb with the Lokar kick down cable?
Keith D- Number of posts : 405
Location : El Dorado Hills, Ca
Registration date : 2016-11-25
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That I do not know, my setup is all Lokar.
It Maybe possible but I do not have any first hand experience doing that.
It Maybe possible but I do not have any first hand experience doing that.
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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I’m not that thrilled with that Lokar billet pedal.
Seth G- Vintage-Vans Listings Manager
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Location : Anacortes, WA
Age : 50
Registration date : 2013-04-24
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Man I'm glad this came up. I've been needed to do this conversion myself and you've saved me a lot of trouble trying to figure out what pedal works. Thanks!
I found this one on Ebay and bought it. Seems like a great deal for $55
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Eliminator-Floor-Mount-Throttle-Pedal-Brake-Pad-Kit-Truck-Street-Rod/382850218518?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D7d76352062b1449699c793c7c2cea6d7%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D382850218518%26itm%3D382850218518&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
I found this one on Ebay and bought it. Seems like a great deal for $55
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Eliminator-Floor-Mount-Throttle-Pedal-Brake-Pad-Kit-Truck-Street-Rod/382850218518?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D7d76352062b1449699c793c7c2cea6d7%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D382850218518%26itm%3D382850218518&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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If you wouldn’t mind posting some pictures of your set Keith, I would appreciate it. Sometimes pictures are worth a thank words 😆
Keith D- Number of posts : 405
Location : El Dorado Hills, Ca
Registration date : 2016-11-25
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I mocked it up then I removed it, I stripped everything out of the van as I am taking it soon to get it media blasted.
It will be a while before I get it painted and start putting everything back together.
It will be a while before I get it painted and start putting everything back together.
OutofSight- Number of posts : 1558
Location : Lake Oroville, Ca.
Registration date : 2015-11-19
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Ok.
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