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vkarppinen

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need an axle for my 65

Post by vkarppinen on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:56 am

Hey folks, so my new 65 sportsvan needs a drivers side axle. Its a 10 bolt rear end, no posi, 5 lug.

I may need a differential bearing also, does anyone know where I can get these items.

At this point the axle is the major need

Thanks for your help
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Digz

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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by Digz on Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:30 pm

You can get a repair bearing for the axle if thats what is wrong. It moves the surface the bearing rides on over. It also has the seal on it. You should be able to get bearing kits for the center section through Jegs or Summit easy enough.
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vkarppinen

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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by vkarppinen on Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:11 pm

the outer drivers side bearing at some point gouged an eighth inch deep groove around the axle which is now letting gear oil leak by.

The axle itself needs replacing. I have the outer bearings and seals already.
The metal shavings seemed to have gotten into the racer of the differential bearings causing grooves in the racer.

The whole gear box is full of fine metal dust I need to clean out before reassembly.

is there another vehicle that uses the same axle ?

Thanks again ,

Vinnie
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jrinaman

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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by jrinaman on Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:19 pm

the repair bearing is designed to correct that. a stock replacement wouldn't work if axle is gouged, a repair bearing rides on an unused part of the axle so likely not damaged there.
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vkarppinen

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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by vkarppinen on Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:24 pm

ok.. ya that sounds like the fix, do they last without leaking ?
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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by jrinaman on Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:25 pm

vkarppinen wrote:ok.. ya that sounds like the fix, do they last without leaking ?
about the same as the original. maybe 50 years? https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/national-axle-repair-bearing-rp-6408/15050028-P?searchTerm=repair+bearing
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m1dadio
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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by m1dadio on Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:31 pm

does the rear end have a factory diff cover? and does the gasket have the oil holes open. This can be the number one reason axle bearing lack lubrication.

If the bearing surface has an 1/8" grove in it the axle will be off center and no seal will be able to handle that. The repair bearing is probably the right way to go and you need to make sure its the right diff cover and gasket.

I think those repair bearings are acceptable but I would be concerned about an 1/8" groove in the axle. that is actually 1/4" of axle diameter gone and it has worn through the case hardened surface. I would not use the axle on my van fearing it may break. Then you would have body damage or worse a bad accident.

show us a picture of the axle

somebody must have an axle for you. There is also shops that will weld repair and regrind the axle back to original dimensions.

That much wear could have occurred on your recent trip if there was a lack of lubrication. good thing the axle didnt break the flange off while driving.

check this link

http://vintage-vans.forumotion.com/t24727-rear-diff-and-axle-bearing-failure?highlight=rear+diff+cover+gasket


M1D
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vkarppinen

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heres some pictures

Post by vkarppinen on Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:32 am




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vkarppinen

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i think im going to have it welded . Whats the thoughts

Post by vkarppinen on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:38 am

I work at a vocation high school, the welding instructor said he can weld, fill in with stainless steel wire, and machine tool can machine it to the correct dimensions


Any worries about breakage out there
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Digz

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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by Digz on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:04 pm

That's no worse than mine are . Up to you but a repair bearing will take care of it. knock the burrs off and grind off or turn the sharp ridge off towards the flange.
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m1dadio
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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by m1dadio on Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:25 pm

If that were mine I would go for the weld and machine repair and then also use the repair bearing to place the ware surface onto original metal.

Does your welder know how to normalise (heat treat) the weld area after machining . and if he knew how to case harden it that would be best. using stainless steel may make the area a bit softer but there are easy ways to correct that.

m1D
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Russell

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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by Russell on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:50 am

If it were mine I would swap out the whole rear end?
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Re: need an axle for my 65

Post by Vantasia on Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:51 am

vkarppinen wrote:


I recall seeing posts on using these wider race bearings, you might have to grind the back of the hubs at the flange visible in the picture tiny bit to allow the bearing to seat and the axle to return deep enough back into the rear, I think it was an old Donivan post with pictures of the procedure.
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Re: need an axle for my 65

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