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donivan65
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by donivan65 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:41 am

,,,and I was also kidding about you making me work on your van when everybody else will be partying on the Beach,,,,,,,,,as for those jackstands, I see blocks,,,,,they could fall if you start jacking up on on the center link,,,,,thats what meant,,,,,,,putting the tires back on would be safer in case something does slip......
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:27 am

The 2 cribbing jack stands on the front are real sturdy and the 4 x 4 that goes across is bolted into them. I will put the tires back on, I don't need another accident.


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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by savage on Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:16 am

Rich, looks like your vans underside is covered in what I call CA concrete (oil ,grease, sand & dirt ,Baked on by CA heat & age) & hard as heck.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:43 pm

It is Tom. Going to borrow a power washer from a member, soak the grease and oil and spray it down. Hopefully it will come off but I'm sure I will have to do some scraping.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by savage on Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:45 am

It might be easyer to scrape off as much as you can before you power wash it. be easer to clean up big globs,before it gets wet??? And PW probably do better job on whats left.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:16 am

Everything under the van is crusted over with oil and sand. Had to scrape it off just so I could find the nut and bolt for the tie rod end. I then loosened the clamps, soaked them with PB blaster, waited an hour and spent another hour trying to get the center link to turn either way but it won't budge and I had to go to work. I was a little frustrated I couldn't fix it myself but would have not given up. Sunday I saw my friend who is a service writer at a Chevy dealership. He says take it off and he will have his guys straighten it for me free. So Friday I am going to take the whole front end off and work with it that way. There will be more room for me to fit under it so I scrape the bottom like Savage suggests before I power wash it. I know this may be a stupid question but I should change the tie rod ends once the center link is off, right?
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by donivan65 on Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:31 am

Well,,,,,,maybe you need to hit the Gym more often if you cant unscrew the link,,,,,,,but really,,,,you need to get mean on it,,,,big pipe wrenches,,,,,slide the clamp over,,,use WD40,,,,try and spread the slot open to free up the threads,,,,twist a screwdriver in there,,,smack it apart with a punch,,,,and REMEMBER,,,,,you want to loosen it,,,,,the drivers side threads are left hand,,,they go backwards,,,,so work from the passenger side,,,,,,and you can just undo the tierods with an official puller or pickle fork,,,,,










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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:19 am

I don't like to give up,,,will give it one more try.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by savage on Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:26 am

Like Don said you got to get mean with it & soak the heck out of them .
Probably been together for 50++ years??? you can get it.,
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:39 am

So I put on my big boy hat and got mean with it. I think this is the best I can get it while it's still on the van. I took the engine crossmember off so I could climb in the doghouse and work on it standing instead of on the ground. Thanks for the push guys, just didn't know how mean I needed to get with it.

BEFORE


AFTER, a little blurry because it was a tough workout.


Crossmember has a 1/4 of road grime buildup. Might need a hammer and chisel to get it off...LOL
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by vanny on Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:47 am

Great job, Richie!!! It's like night and day...no need for the gym this week...Hee, hee hee! Looks like you showed it who's boss!



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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:50 am

I played baseball into my early 20's and it was just like catching a double header,,,you didn't want to do it but it had to be done. Followed Don and Savage's good advise so I could show other members who might have a similar problem that if I can do it with my beat up body anyone can. The only gym I go to theses days is the 19th hole for a few Rolling Rocks.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by vanny on Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:43 am

Wow, flashback time! We used to have a member in our van club whom we called Rolling Rock because that's the only beer he'd drink...In any case, you got done what had to be done and it looks like much better and even nicer once you're done scraping and power washing! cheers


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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by donivan65 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:15 pm

,,,,,,,,there is just no end of things you learn on this site,,,,,,,
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:24 pm

Amen to that Don, thanks again for the push.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by donivan65 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:44 pm

Well,,,,,,,,,,if Push comes to shove,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:57 pm

What are you offering, or is that just a push to get moving on my engine?
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by donivan65 on Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:41 pm

So have you gotten the bar to move yet,,,,,,you need to break loose both sides separately,,,,,and I dont know that the steering knuckles will let you unscrew the center link from the tie rods completely,,,,you might have to remove a tie rod to get it all apart,,,,,and thats a SHOVE for you to make yours look pretty,,,,thats what I had to do to make the engine and crossmember look nice on the SuzyVan I am working on,,,,,
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:58 am

I will get back to the center link drama Friday and see what I can accomplish.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am

A little more progress. Got me a pickle fork and it worked like a charm.
Savage called it, a lot of California concrete baked on.
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:04 am

Spent 3 hours scraping more CA concrete.


This stuff has been on there a long time. Might need the hammer and chisel on this side!!
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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by vanny on Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:50 am

Nothing like showing the van a little TLC!!! That van is lucky it met you. From the looks of it, the California concrete seems to have protected the surfaces well. It'll probably get better gas mileage once all that heavy stuff is removed! Keep up the good work... cheers


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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:49 pm

Vanny, it sure was on there good. I'm glad now that I took the time cleaning it off. When I removed the suspension none of the leaf spring or axle bolts were tightened from the PO's attempt at lowering it. A bad accident waiting to happen. Filled my shop vac twice so it definately will shed a few pounds and I'm only half way finished with the undercarriage. Laying on my back in the low 60 degree LA weather is just not comfortable....

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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by vanny on Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:19 pm

I'd be thrilled for 60 degrees right now! I'm on vacation next week and planning to finally do a little work on the van...they're predicting a little snow every day next week...gonna try out a little space heater in the garage. Hopefully, that will help a little.


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Re: 1964 Sears van

Post by richie61 on Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:44 pm

A little progress on the Sears van, I took a chance and bought a air scrapper from HF for $25 bucks. It seems to be a little easier than using a regular paint scrapper but vibrates the crap out of your hands, arms and shoulders. With a little pressure it gets the loose stuff off easily. The crud on the bottom side of the floor around the gas tank area is like rubberized cement, almost like undercoating and 1/8 inch thick. It has been the hardest to get off. I almost gave up on it and let it be but I'm to stubborn and went at it slowly. I got all of the crud off the wheel wells and the frame. Been using a wire wheel to do the finishing touches and it works well. It takes time but a few hours a week for the next few months I might have it all clean. The rear axle is all done and ready for paint.

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