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dougtappan

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Front spring mount

Post by dougtappan on Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:52 pm

I'm putting the front axle back in my 67 . The "block" on top of the spring can face two directions. Does the "ski tip" end go forward facing or rearward facing?
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:41 pm

you got a picture of what you need so someone can peek under their 2nd Gen to see what they got? ,,,,,,I will probable see a 2nd gen in the next couple of days in my travels,,,,,,,,
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by dougtappan on Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:34 pm

Thanks Donnie I have to wait till one of my kids, well sons is around to walk me through the pic process cause it's a little too complicated for me.But i'll go out and take some pics right now.
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:10 pm

if,,,,,,,,you mean Caster shims,,,,,,,they go on top of the axle,,,,,,,,spring sits on them,,,,,fat side goes towards the rear,,,,,,



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Re: Front spring mount

Post by deepott71 on Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:51 pm

yep like don said, he means caster shims and bingo correcto, want the relationship in the kingpins top to lean back, this will help with tracking forward instead of all over the road
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SHIMS

Post by JOHNFIELY on Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:30 am

Do all leafspings have these? my 64 doesn't and runs true. should i get these?
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:51 am

get an alignment check,,,,,,,that takes special tools, see what you got,,,,,,,,the front tires need to be tilted backwards like motorcycle forks to let the wheels return back to straight as you finish a turn and to keep the wheels going straight down the road,,,,,,,,,,I let go of my steering wheel after a turn and the steering wheel spins right back to straight,,,,,,I guess it is possible that when they built a front axle, it is bent enough that there were no shims installed,,,,but see what you got,,,,,,they would tell you if you need shims,,,,,you can buy them at a 4WD or off road shop, put them in yourself if you wanted to........
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by deepott71 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:03 pm

agreed , ive usually seem shims on lowered straight axles when you have front raked down that caster goes away that's designed into factory set up so you add the shims to compensate
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dougtappan

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Re: Front spring mount

Post by dougtappan on Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:00 pm

Thanks guys but I need to know the direction of the block on top of the front spring that has a saddle at each end to recieve the "u" bolts. That block is not shaped symetrically. one end has a square shape and the other end is shaped like the front of a snow ski. I have no idea why but the engineer that desighned that block made the two ends different or if it would ultimately make a differance but I am a believer that it was done for a reason.
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by mo_1040 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:44 pm



On my 67, the small end goes toward the rear....
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by mo_1040 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:44 pm

Damn, all my pics are sideways?







,,,here you go,,,,,,,

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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:47 pm

I just took these pictures on a 2nd Gen,,,,,,is yours like this,,,,,or you got some kind of foreign parts on that van,,,,,,






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Re: Front spring mount

Post by mo_1040 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:52 pm

Maybe they made one side shorter to compensate for the angle on the caster shim?
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:57 pm

I still am not sure on what we are talking about,,,,,,,the cap on top of the spring or the shim under the spring,,,,,
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:18 pm

if we are talking about this cap,,,,,,MO,,,,,take over,,,,,



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dougtappan

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Re: Front spring mount

Post by dougtappan on Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:21 pm

Donnie, thank you for the great pic of the block I've been trying to explain. And MO a million thanks for the pic of the block on the spring. Now I think I can be confident that the small side (if you will) goes toward the back of the spring. Thanks guys ....... great info.
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Re: Front spring mount

Post by donivan65 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:26 pm

this is why we come here,,,,,,find out about vans,,,,,,,share our information,,,,,and one question always leads to another,,,,,it never ends,,,,,,and I like that,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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