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    Post by VANagain Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:07 am

    Here's a project for the van I've been working on for a while and it's almost ready to go. The manual calls it a Dash Mat. I've been calling it a Kick Panel. It's the black "chip board" that goes on the front interior "wall" just above your feet. It's got jute on the backside for insulation. And this is always torn up or missing altogether. There's no way to get a new one... until now!

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    I've found this black treated waterproof panelboard at an interior supply outfit. But the prospect of cutting it out by hand did not appeal to me. All those curves, and the material is pretty tough to cut. I knew I could draw this shape in a vector program and then have it cut on a CNC laser! So I took some measurements of the metal in the van:

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    And pieced together the remnants of my dash mat, like deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls:

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    Printed it out on a large-format printer, cut it out with scissors and an X-actor knife, and test fit it under the dash:

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    Here's where I'd like to say I got it right the first time, sent it to the laser, done deal.

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    Not so! Measurements of my scraps were not reliable due to age, warping and shrinking. And there are so many holes and openings whose measurements are all relative to one another. I would crawl under the dash and attach it at the two holes in the center, and then mark up how much everything else was off. Then, adjust the file in the computer, print out, cut out, test fit. Repeat.

    Anyone who knows me can tell you what a perfectionist I am. I really want to get this right. In fact, it has been what is keeping me from re-installing my dash. I keep driving it with all the wires hanging down, asking for trouble.

    But now I am about ready to do my first laser cut! I could use your help though. I'm hoping one of you has parts of yours that are intact where mine is missing. I referred to Meyer's for the portion under the heater. These are the two areas where I could use better photo reference:  


    • The bottom edge where the speedometer cable comes out of the floor. Does it have any sort of notch cut there, like the one where the heater core pipes come thru the floor?

    • The bottom edge where the electrical harness comes out of that plate in the floor.  This is the only photo I could find of this area (from my old NY Sportvan):


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    Here's what I came up with for this. The rectangular opening is for the lower bracket for the windshield washer bag. I might make that oval opening larger to leave more clearance for the harness. The harness puts strain on the opening in the mat and usually tears it there.

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    I'd appreciate any help you guys could provide! I'm anxious to get these made. My coworker will give me a deal on cutting them on his laser! I can make extras to make available to you guys.

    Thanks!
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    Post by vanny Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:53 am

    Chevy guys are lucky to have an OCD Guy like you working on this, Rich! My only regret is that you don't own an Econo! LOL!


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    Post by VANagain Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:14 pm

    Yeah, Vanny, add to that: Overly-optimistic OCD guy! I thought this would be easy. Take some measurements, draw it up, maybe three go-arounds to fine tune. I should have kept track of the number of iterations. Ah, probably better I didnt. Wink
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    Post by Twinpilot001 Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:56 pm

    I will go out & get some pix tomorrow-think mine is not trashed-in ok shape? ill look & pm me as to ur email so i can send upix,Matt
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    Post by pan58head Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:02 am

    vanagain, wow thanks for the effort. You get this figured out I'm thinking my van needs one
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    Post by Twinpilot001 Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:16 am

    is this panel for 1st or 2nd gens??
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    Post by VANagain Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:59 am

    This panel is for 1st Gens. Maybe someone else will get inspired to plot out one for 2nd Gens!
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    Post by econopoor Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:46 pm

    vanny wrote:Chevy guys are lucky to have an OCD Guy like you working on this, Rich! My only regret is that you don't own an Econo! LOL!

    Fred Carello makes these for econolines. Mine is covered in carpet. I'd bet he could cover them in vinyl just as well. He has patterns for any heater-vent combo you may have.

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    Quietride makes an ABS plastic insulator kit for Econolines as well. It gets a little pricy but it's nice stuff. Quietride also makes kits for Chevy and Dodge vans.

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    Post by m1dadio Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:56 pm

    WOW!

    I like the inovation and good ol American Get er Done type people we have in the vanning comunity.

    You just don't see this on other vehicle site where they buy everything they need in a box.

    very nice VANagain

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    Post by Joe Van Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:04 am

    Great Work..!!!..I thought pictures of mine would help out but after looking closer my kick panel is not original..... The holes are traced out with with a marker and there is jute padding attached to it..!!!.. New Kick Panel for 1st Gens 105_0214


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    Post by BILLS66 Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:46 am

    Rich,I would absolutely buy one of those ! Bill
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    Post by vanny Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:26 pm

    econopoor wrote:
    vanny wrote:Chevy guys are lucky to have an OCD Guy like you working on this, Rich! My only regret is that you don't own an Econo! LOL!

    Fred Carello makes these for econolines. Mine is covered in carpet. I'd bet he could cover them in vinyl just as well. He has patterns for any heater-vent combo you may have.

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    Quietride makes an ABS plastic insulator kit for Econolines as well. It gets a little pricy but it's nice stuff. Quietride also makes kits for Chevy and Dodge vans.

    Quietride

    Thanks for the info Duane!!! Very Happy


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    Post by Casimier Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:00 am

    Hey Rich

    I had the same problem measuring and fitting up a dash skirt template I'm making for the Econolines.
    I got so tired of measuring and measuring that I got a donor and cut out the dash!

    Dashskirts soon .

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    Post by No1rascal Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:29 pm

    Rich, add me to ur list of those interested.
    Will definitely need one for my 66 GMC.

    And thanks for the great work!

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    Post by VANagain Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:44 am

    I got all the measurements dialed in for the kick panel and these are the the first pieces I've had laser cut! They look great!! The bed on my buddy's laser wasn't big enough to do do the whole thing in one piece. The right half was easy to put in place and it fits good! I need to get my wire loom and speedo cable out of the way to try out the left half. More photos tomorrow.

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    Post by bletman Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:26 am

    WOW! I just noticed this thread. I am at the same stage with my kick panel and I have my pieces laid out on the floor. Anyway, I would like to buy one!!!
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    Post by DanTheVanMan Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:45 am

    Awesome thread VANagain! cheers


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    Post by Magic Potion Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:55 pm

    I would love to have one, if there are enough to go around sign me up. Great work.
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    Post by DanTheVanMan Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:22 pm

    Well it looks fantastic VANagain! And I'm sure once you get it all figured out many folks here would be interested as well if you are planning or willing to have a number produced. And I have to admit although my original is in good to very good condition I find myself interested too. Good job! cheers


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    Post by xjamesx Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:33 pm

    I would definitely be interested as well if you made some of these to sell. Great job so far!!!
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    Post by Chevboner Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:44 pm

    VANagin, You're not the only one. Not Me, but I saw these on Instagram, Pretty neat too.New Kick Panel for 1st Gens Img_6210New Kick Panel for 1st Gens Img_6211
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    Post by Vanish Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:55 pm

    well if you know rich Like I know Rich .... you'll want to get the one from Rich !!!!!!!

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    Post by DanTheVanMan Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:22 am

    Hahahaha! Well put Vanish! cheers


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    Post by Chevboner Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:04 am

    Vanagain does this mean you are going to remake the rubber floor mat as well?
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    Post by wideload Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:53 am

    Rich what else other than the heater has to be removed in order to install one of these?


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