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Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

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vanner68

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by vanner68 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:00 pm

Old gasket material in where it shouldn't be?

Vacuum leak?

Use a length of wood as a stethoscope and see if you can pinpoint where the noise is coming from.

Oh, and if you do decide to sell, running is always a plus!
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BoneMan

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by BoneMan on Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:40 pm

Dawgboy wrote:So here is his new "sun roof". Fully peeled... Notice he does have a Battery box lid though.


Dang. That's harsh.
Looks like this guy may have had a similar situation with his roof.
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Wheelie

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Wheelie on Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:29 am

Take to top a convertible top shop and have them make you a custom vinyl top like a jeep with snaps and all.
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Joe Van
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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Joe Van on Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:52 am

Wheelie wrote:Take to top a convertible top shop and have them make you a custom vinyl top like a jeep with snaps and all.
I will 2ND that Now that its running Good turn it to something Cool/Unique..!!!.. I am sure someone here can come up with the piece that's missing above the windshield... Sure would be COOL at the Beach in the Summer...Very Happy..
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A100 Wrench

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by A100 Wrench on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:11 am

I would make it into a crew cab P/U
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jrinaman

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by jrinaman on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:48 am

summer is coming, just leave it off!
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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Space Truckin on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:51 am

LaughingLaughing
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Dawgboy

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Dawgboy on Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:37 am

While I love the "go topless" ideas, I would be worried about the structural integrity of a roofless A100. Now maybe if some more cross supports were welded in and attached to the floor... and a massive header built above the windshield that tied back into the B pillars... Making a double-cab Combi out of it would be very rad, and you could use a flat steel roof for that...

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vanner68

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by vanner68 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:14 am

I remember seeing an A-100 years ago that was cut off at the beltline, a half height windshield, and the entire area behind the side doors filled with steel to make a deck.
It was named "Sun Toy"

This would be perfect for such a mod.
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mattimuss

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by mattimuss on Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:48 pm

The Navy ran a few topless A100 vans as flight line support trucks over on Coronado Island for many years:







A local MoPar junk yard guy bought them all some years ago and parted them all out. When I was at the yard [closed down last year] he showed me the sales paperwork from the Navy. I wish I could have gotten one of them! He said they we rust free, low mileage and still drivable...
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jrinaman

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by jrinaman on Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:36 pm

all it needs is a hot tub in the back
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Gordon_M

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Gordon_M on Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:44 pm

mattimuss wrote:The Navy ran a few topless A100 vans as flight line support trucks over on Coronado Island for many years:








Interesting. That's a van cut at the belt line, right? No front doors, no side doors - probably no rear doors either?

There is so much metal missing from that shell it can have no structural rigidity at all unless it was put back somehow
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vanner68

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by vanner68 on Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:27 pm

Looks to be extra short as well....
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66mnecotruck

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by 66mnecotruck on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:14 pm

Above the frame, what needs to be rigid?
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Gordon_M

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Gordon_M on Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:11 am

66mnecotruck wrote:Above the frame, what needs to be rigid?

I thought it was effectively a unibody?
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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Joe Van on Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:26 am

I have been thinking about it and in MY Opinion all that is missing is the Roof Skin the Braces and Supports are still there so I don't think there was really no Structural Support lost except for a Very Thin piece of sheet metal to cover it..A Good upholstery shop can make you a Nice Snap on Canvas top with out breaking the bank maby a couple of clear vinyl window's also like sunroof's.. just grind off any sharp metal and spray paint the drip edge first..Very Happy..Down here we call them Beach Van's......
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Digz

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Digz on Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:11 am

Might get away with out some of the rear structure missing on a Dodge, but the cab area and mostly the dash rely heavily on the roof for support. Seam sealer doesn't make that great of a bonding agent.
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vanner68

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by vanner68 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:15 am

Realistically, a roofless van is not likely to be a daily driver. Also realistically, a roofless van is going to be considered a 'parts van'. Even gotavan parted out his first gen Chevy after the roof parted ways.

So, I say- clean up the rough edges enough to reduce the tetanus risk, and drive it for fun until it starts getting worse. You will probably get a few years enjoyment out of it at least!
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ThomastheTankVan

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by ThomastheTankVan on Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:39 pm

Well I've embraced the toplessness, what man wouldn't? haha. Me and the wife strung up Christmas lights around the supports. Put carpet in it and MDF fake wood panelling(sloppily) from home depot. Got a recliner free off of Craigslist, tossed a rug also from CL, and some camping gear...and it's a Beach Van.

You can see me tooling around Ocean Beach and National City. Been getting a lot of questions and more offers when I tell them I'm selling it in May. Decided it would make a great parts van, but it runs too well to be scrapped. It's like selling a gun cause you ran out of ammo. I would like someone to keep it as a Beach Van or put a roof on it and make it right.

I've been taking pics, just need to upload them to photobucket so I can post them up here.
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Twinpilot001

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Twinpilot001 on Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:42 am

sheet alunimum-cover it!!
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Dawgboy

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Dawgboy on Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:41 am

Get a vinyl top made so you can keep the junk out. Think Pickup truck bed cover...

Glad you are seeing the positives.
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Joe Van
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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Joe Van on Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:42 pm

...cheerscheerscheers....
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vanner68

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by vanner68 on Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:30 pm

I've always wanted to do this, if you just made a filler panel for the top of the windshield, and put snaps all around the driprail, you could have a company that does boat covers make a canvas top!
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SDEconoTruck

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by SDEconoTruck on Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:36 pm

Got a good look at Collin's A100 today. Here's a few pics:






Man, if it wasn't for the roof, the rest is real nice, interior paint still orig
and looking fresh. Anybody happen to be walking by a spare A-100 roof
might want to grab it for this van, pretty much gonna just need an un-zip
of the gutter rail and re-spot weld of a new lid on.

(Sounded good, says he drives it all over. That windshield would worry me
on the freeway though...)
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Big W

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Re: Roof flew off van! And died! Help!!

Post by Big W on Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:35 pm

How hard would it be to cut the roof off of something newer..say.. a mid 70's van and cut it down to fit. I know the windshield part would have to be fabbed up to fit, or maybe easier to ship the front windshield section if someone had one,then a whole roof and weld the two together. But other then the roof this van looks great.

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