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delraydoug

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speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by delraydoug on Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:25 pm

have a 1966 with a 170 6cyl / 3spd. with 14inch wheels. i used my gps and found out im going 10 mph slower than my speedometer is reading how can it be so far off ? far as i know everything is orginal. how many teeth sould i have on my speedometer gear Question

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by Barnabas on Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:10 pm

Is it 10 MPH slower at all speeds? Or is it 10 MPH slow while driving 60, and 5 MPH slow while driving 30 MPH?

delraydoug

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speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by delraydoug on Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:29 am

only tested it at 50 & 60. 50 it ran 40 at 60 it was showing 50

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by gh0st on Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:17 am

i'm waiting for an answer on this as well. my van does the progressive misreading, the faster i go, the more it's off.

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by Barnabas on Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:23 pm

If you have the wrong gears somewhere, it should be off by a percentage. My not-so-old Econoline reads one MPH faster for every 30 miles. It reads 31 when I'm going 30, and it reads 62 when it's really doing 60. If I was to go 120, the speedometer should read 124, but if I was going 120, I wouldn't be looking at the speedometer!

If it is always off by 10, then you might have a problem with the speedometer. Is it at 0 when you are stopped?

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by Barnabas on Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:26 pm

gh0st wrote:i'm waiting for an answer on this as well. my van does the progressive misreading, the faster i go, the more it's off.

There is a small gear where the speedometer cable goes into the transmission that can be changed. I remember reading about the different gears and how to identify them on one of these forums. Try searching for speedometer gear.

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by chester42 on Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:50 pm

On GM tranies, ! tooth less wil increase speed 5 mph at 50mph. don't know on Ford set up.

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by fmc56 on Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:48 am

There are sevral different gear available for the end of the spedometer cable. If yours is off by a percentage then you need to change the gear. IO have a formula somewhere that calculates it for you.
Fred

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im thinking now i have some really low gears in the rear end

Post by delraydoug on Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:07 am

i was told this van was orginaly from a air force base. most military veh. are governed at 55-60 mph any way i will take it for a slower ride and see if its stil off by 10 mph


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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by Twinpilot001 on Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:55 am

Possibly spedo gear change is warranted?? Also consider wheel size=?/ and Tire sizes also =ive seen everything from 13-15 inch wheels on the older econos= you can also consider a spedo compensator -goes inline on cable & spedo gear-where cable goes into-Happy Vannini]

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by EconoCarl on Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:32 am

delraydoug wrote:i was told this van was orginaly from a air force base. most military veh. are governed at 55-60 mph any way i will take it for a slower ride and see if its stil off by 10 mph

If I had to guess and since you said it was an Air Force van it might have had a 4.56 rear end ratio and it was probably changed out by a previous owner. Like Fred said, you probably need a different gear for the speedometer (at the transmission end). Pretty simple fix once you find out which gear you need.

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found out now i have 3.50 gears in the rear end

Post by delraydoug on Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:06 pm

yes i do think it orginally had 4.56 and was changed out to a 3.50 and they never changed speedo gear in tranny. thats why its off so much. what color gear or how many tooth should i have running 3.50's ?

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by gh0st on Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:56 am

so can anyone comment on what tooth speedo gear was stock for the 3.03 manual econolines?

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by RodStRace on Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:26 pm

The info is out there if you look.

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/speedometer_calibration_______va.htm

There isn't an exact speedo gear for a rear axle ratio, the tire diameter also affects the final drive ratio.

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by gh0st on Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:04 am

RodStRace wrote:The info is out there if you look.

true, but the info is also in here if i ask.

anyone with a 61-67 econoline van or truck, with a 3 spd 3.03 manual transmission, with driver's side speedo cable drive gear hole, with a 3:50 rear end, and your speedometer is accurate:

what is the tooth count of your speedo cable drive gear?

delraydoug

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by delraydoug on Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:51 pm

pulled out my speedo drive gear today it is a - white 17 tooth . while i was under there with the belly pan off i took the rattle out of the shifting linkage with plastic wire ties thru the holes on the radiator suport underneath the rods [ worked great have to post a picture of it]

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by gh0st on Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:58 pm

thanks for the info Doug, that's great!

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by gh0st on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:45 am

checked mine last night, ended up being a 19 tooth type 3A gear.



since my speedo is reading about 16mph high, i will be replacing it with a 20 tooth gear to slow it down. it better be close though, because 20 is the highest 3A gear i can find. or maybe i could just put some 22" wheels on the back, haha.

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Re: speedometer off by 10 mph

Post by Vantasia on Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:42 pm

I just did the GPS test in my '64 G-10 with 15" wheels with 215R70 series rear tires and found that my speedo reads 4-5 MPH faster than GPS speed, consistent through all ranges...at 35, I'm really doing 31, at 55, 51 and at 65, about 60. The same GPS unit in a modern car matches the speedo perfectly. Looks like larger than stock wheel and tire diameter inflates the speedo reading....good to know, at least I'm not speeding all the time and not that far off to worry about a gear change if you can even get one for a '64 Saginaw!

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