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Donn

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1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:37 pm

My new project made it here today..I'm psyched ! Going to need a lot of work to get her where I am shooting for, maybe even more then I planned for but that's ok, they always do.
The truck came from Seattle Wa. With no motor or trans. The plan is to do a 302 v8 with an automatic. Paint it and keep it...
The body is in VERY good shape, some small surface rust but not much at all. Truck still has original paint. SS cragers and decent tires. All glass is good, bumpers very good.
I did not get some stuff that was suppose to be in the deal, heater motor, gas pedal and linkage, drive shaft. So I need to start hunting a bit for parts.
All in all very happy..need to make some room now and get started..
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EconoCarl

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by EconoCarl on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:44 pm

Good lookin' truck Donn, should be a fun project!
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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by G-Man on Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:16 pm

Great looking econo!!!!
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SoapDude

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by SoapDude on Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:17 pm

Very cool, looks like fun!

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Guest on Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:32 pm

that is sharp
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mcfly

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by mcfly on Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:07 pm

Pickup looks great Donn. I just gave away an 85 302 with an aod tranny that I was going to use but decided to go another way, oh well. If you ever decide to get rid of those wheels let me know.
Do you think you will be ready for the summer ?


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Donn

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:28 am

Mike,

I am planning to change the wheel's. I want to go with torq thrust.
Although it will take a while until I am ready but I will let you know first.
I am hopeing to have it at lease on the street by summer. I am on my way to south Jersy this morning to look at a motor. I need to sell the 4x4 to raise money for the PU. Once that is sold the PU gets started..
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EconoUSAparts

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by EconoUSAparts on Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:04 am

I trade parts for 4x4 trucks :-) I have any part you may need.
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EconoUSAparts

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by EconoUSAparts on Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:11 am

I dont want to be the bearer of bad news(depending on how you look at it but a few things tell me thats not a 63 truck. By any chance does it have a hump in the lower cab wall/bed floor area for the trans. bell housing? A 63 wouldnt. Is there "not" a hole in the floor for a heater box? The hole disappeared in 65 when the heater was moved under dash. A 63 WOULD NOT have the crossmemmber you have and wouldnt have the front bumper you have either.
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mcfly

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by mcfly on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:14 am

Donn wrote:Mike,

I am planning to change the wheel's. I want to go with torq thrust.

I love those too, going to put them on my mustang...keep in touch about the cragers.

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Indian640

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Indian640 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:42 am

I saw this truck when it was 4-sale.... a great buy! Best of luck with it!
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EconoUSAparts

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by EconoUSAparts on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:56 am

Of course I forgot to mention the obvious,it has the 65 Spring Special side trim on it which unless someone put it on is that year(65) specific on the trucks. The 9 inch rear end was only availabe on Heavy Duty models in late 63 and I dont see any of that badging on it. It also has the turn signal trim, another sign to me that this is probably a 65 Spring Special truck,titled as a 63,which to me isnt a negative,its a positive because a 65 is a better vehicle to work with overall. Lets just hope at least the numbers on the door tag match. If I was a bettin man.............
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Donn

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:34 pm

No hump, it does have the heater whole and PO bought the crossmember as he was planning on doing the v8. I think the side trim was added.
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Donn

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:47 pm

Drove 2 1/2 hours to South Jersey this morning and bought my new motor.
302 ci small block ford with Trick Flow heads,RPM Air Gap intake,750 cfm Holley carb,Crane roller rockers,Trick Flow hardened push rods,Motor Sport lifters,Cloyes double doller timing chain,Ford F303 cam (.512 lift ), new water pump and ran 12.48 @110 mph
$1500
I got to see it run while he still had it in the car. It ran really strong and it had a lot of ball's...
Very happy cheers
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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by G-Man on Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:51 pm

that baby's going to fly Very Happy
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Oldsmobubble

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Oldsmobubble on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:06 pm

Super nice! I love those econo pickups. Especially the side trim. Did you all see the really nice candy burqundy CA pickup on ebay about 6 months aqo? It belonqed to a auto body shop. It was everythinq I could do to keep myself from buyinq it.
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Indian640

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Indian640 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:42 pm

Donn wrote:Drove 2 1/2 hours to South Jersey this morning and bought my new motor.
302 ci small block ford with Trick Flow heads,RPM Air Gap intake,750 cfm Holley carb,Crane roller rockers,Trick Flow hardened push rods,Motor Sport lifters,Cloyes double doller timing chain,Ford F303 cam (.512 lift ), new water pump and ran 12.48 @110 mph
$1500
I got to see it run while he still had it in the car. It ran really strong and it had a lot of ball's...
Very happy cheers

Woo! Yeah Baby!!!!!!!
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pj1134

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by pj1134 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:45 pm

wow thats in great shape. keep updating.
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EconoUSAparts

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by EconoUSAparts on Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:37 pm

Donn wrote:No hump, it does have the heater whole and PO bought the crossmember as he was planning on doing the v8. I think the side trim was added.

Well I ll be darned. Did he add the additional mount brackets that it attaches to? A 63 wouldnt have them and attaching with only 2 bolts for a V8 is a definite no-no. The crossmember looks stock style so it will need converted to accept a V8. Vics your man there. The front bumper and side trim are nice upgrades for a 63. If I were you I would upgrade to an unerdash heater also and patch the floor.
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Donn

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:27 am

Tim,

I was going to be contacting you for some parts once I sell my '66 4x4.
The heater was suppose to be with the truck but was not, so I need a heater.
If you think the newer one is better I will go with your opion. I also need a drive shaft that will fit the 302 to a c4. I am sending the cross member to Vic.
I was thinking I was going to fabricate brackets but if you have them, I'll take them.
I am going to check the vin numbers today, now you have me wondering???
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Donn

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:40 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Ford-Econoline-Pick-Up-Van-Driveshaft-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f8fb41efQQitemZ300529959407QQptZVintageQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Is this the driveshaft I need??
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Indian640

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Indian640 on Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:48 am

Donn, I went back and found this post for you from Fred fmc56.
This is the best chart I`ve seen on driveshafts.... Art

There are several different driveshafts .
1) 61/62 one peice shaft
The rest are two peice with a slip yoke in them. The automatic driveshafts are about 6" shorter than the corresponding manual transmission driveshafts. The 63/64 driveshafts are about 1" longer? than the 65-67 ones for the same engine/transmission combo.
2) 63/64 with a 144/170 small rear axle manual transmission, two small u-joints
3) 63/64 with a 144/170 9" rear axle, manual transmission, small front u-joint, large rear u-joint
4) 64 with a 144/170 small rear axle, automatic, small front u-joint, small rear u-joint
5) 64 with a 144/170 9" rear axle, automatic, small front u-joint, large rear u-joint
6) 65-67 with a 170 small rear axle, manual transmission, small front u-joint, small rear u-joint
7) 65-67 with a 170 small rear axle, automatic transmission, small front u-joint, small rear u-joint
65-67 with a 170 9" rear axle, manual transmission, small front u-joint, large rear u-joint
9) 65-67 with a 170 9" rear axle, automatic transmission, small front u-joint, large rear u-joint
10) 65-67 with a 240 9" rear axle, manual transmission, large front u-joint, large rear u-joint
11) 65-67 with a 240 9" rear axle, automatic transmission, large front u-joint, large rear u-joint
In addition the 65-67 driveshafts for the 240's had two different diameters.
Sounds like your truck has a manual transmission and the driveshaft is out of an automatic. Measure the length of yours and the u-joint configuration and I'll see if i have what you need.
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mcfly

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by mcfly on Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:39 pm

Hey Donn ,since you are starting from scratch why not an AOD ?
Vic can hook you up with what you need.
It will make the LIE alot more enjoyable plus a few extra miles per tankful.


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Donn

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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by Donn on Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:19 pm

Got my motor and trans Tuesday...
Started out of Long Island NY at 6am with a friend, headed to South Jersey to get the motor arrived 9:00am
Had the 302 in the rear of my Jeep Wrangler by 10am, then to Upstate NY to pick up a C4 trans arrived 2pm
Back on the road by 3pm headed to the Pocono's Pa to get my buddy's 34 Street rod to bring back to LI, left PA 6pm sweated out the Cross Bronx Exp and arrived home 9:30pm, 470 miles, three states, 15 1/2 hours....
What a day, but well worth it.
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Re: 1963 Black Econ Pick Up

Post by DanTheVanMan on Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:45 pm

Quite the haul in 15 1/2 hours! But like you said Donn. It's well worth it!! cheers


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